Acid/Base Weight Change: Melting Point Increase?

In summary, the weight of an acid sample may decrease after sitting for a week, potentially due to evaporation. On the other hand, a base sample may gain weight as it absorbs moisture from the air, possibly due to excessive hydrogen bonding. This weight gain can also result in a higher melting point, possibly due to increased intermolecular forces. Molality, defined as moles of solute per kg of solvent, can also affect the freezing and boiling points of solutions. However, without more information about the specific sample and storage conditions, it is difficult to accurately determine the cause of these changes.
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Suppose u let an acid sample sit for a week, does it lose weight after a period of time? and a base sample gain weight after a period of time? why is like this? and when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises. is it because of the increased intermolecular forces? thanks
 
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very strange - never heard of this
 
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Your logic is interesting. You should better consider equilibrium phenomenon; and Lavosier's very principle. An isolated system neither loses nor gains weight.

Your query reminds me of water absorption capacity of bases; as hydroxide ions are very powerful bases, hydrogen bonding may be excessive to absorb large quantities of water. Gaseous-originated mineral acids like HCl may lose weight as some of HCl evaporates away.
 
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nemzy said:
Suppose u let an acid sample sit for a week, does it lose weight after a period of time? and a base sample gain weight after a period of time? why is like this? and when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises. is it because of the increased intermolecular forces? thanks

I'd suspect the sample is either evaporating or absorbing moisture from the air.
 
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when a sample gains weight, the melthing point rises
ARE you saying When Molecular mass increases(similiar compounds)melting point rises?
{ethane,ethane,propane }

In case of absorption/evaporation of water,there is a change in Freezing point/Boiling point in non ideal solutions which is proportional to molality.
 
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what is molality
 
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Weight gain? Sure, picking up water --- and, carbon dioxide. The second item is the melting point booster.
 
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This is a lot of speculation about a "sample" we know very little about. Questions: What compound is it? Under what conditions have it been stored? Any further info would help. As for the question about molality, it's moles of solute per kg of solvent, of a solution.
 
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Molality:no of moles of solute /kg of solution.
 
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poolwin2001 said:
Molality:no of moles of solute /kg of solution.
Nope, it's moles solute/kg solvent. See: http://www.chemistry-dictionary.com/Molality
 
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1. How does acid concentration affect the melting point of a substance?

The concentration of acid in a substance can affect its melting point by either increasing or decreasing it. This is because acids can donate protons, which can disrupt the intermolecular forces holding the substance together. This disruption can lead to a decrease in melting point as the substance becomes easier to break apart, or an increase in melting point as the substance becomes more tightly packed.

2. What is the relationship between base strength and melting point increase?

The strength of a base can also influence the melting point of a substance. Strong bases have a higher affinity for protons and can interact more strongly with acidic substances. This interaction can result in a decrease in melting point as the substance becomes easier to break apart. However, weak bases may have little to no effect on the melting point of a substance.

3. How does the type of acid or base affect the melting point increase?

The type of acid or base can greatly impact the melting point increase of a substance. Strong acids or bases, such as hydrochloric acid or sodium hydroxide, can have a more significant effect on the melting point compared to weaker acids or bases. Additionally, the size and structure of the acid or base molecule can also influence the melting point.

4. What other factors besides acid/base weight change can affect the melting point increase?

Other factors that can affect the melting point increase include the purity of the substance, the presence of impurities or contaminants, and the size and structure of the molecules in the substance. Additionally, external factors such as pressure and temperature can also play a role in determining the melting point of a substance.

5. Can the melting point increase caused by acid/base weight change be reversed?

In most cases, the melting point increase caused by acid/base weight change cannot be reversed. Once the intermolecular forces in a substance have been disrupted, it can be difficult to restore them to their original state. However, in some cases, the substance may undergo a chemical reaction that can reverse the melting point increase. Additionally, the addition of a neutralizing agent can also help to reverse the effects of acid/base weight change on the melting point.

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