Help for a beginner Bell's Theorem

In summary: That is unphysical and I doubt that it is true. In summary, Bell's Theorem, which explores the concept of nonlocality in quantum mechanics, can be difficult for beginners to understand. However, there are resources available that explain it in simpler terms, such as the website quantumtantra.com and the PhysicsForums thread on Bell's theorem. Nonlocality is still not fully understood and there is no clear explanation for it, but the concept of a light cone and the idea of backward causation can help to visualize the implications of nonlocality.
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Help for a beginner...Bell's Theorem

Hi guys, I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to quantum mechanics but I've recently been reading about Bell's Theorem and have become intrigued by its implications, specifically the nonlocality principle where electrons seem to be able to communicate with each other simultaneously. I understand the results of the expiriment but it is driving me crazy because it is just so hard to accept that this could be true. Do you know of any resource that describes the possible explanations of nonlocality in layman's terms (i.e. something a beginner could possible understand)? Thanks!
 
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Try http://quantumtantra.com/bell2.html. I think it's one of the simplest expositions of Bell's theorem and proof, and it involves little to no math.
 
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asb84 said:
Hi guys, I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to quantum mechanics but I've recently been reading about Bell's Theorem and have become intrigued by its implications, specifically the nonlocality principle where electrons seem to be able to communicate with each other simultaneously. I understand the results of the expiriment but it is driving me crazy because it is just so hard to accept that this could be true. Do you know of any resource that describes the possible explanations of nonlocality in layman's terms (i.e. something a beginner could possible understand)? Thanks!

Welcome to PhysicsForums, asb84!

There is no current explanation of the WHY of quantum non-locality, if that is your question. The laws of physics just "are". Is there a specific question you have?
 
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start with wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_at_a_distance_(physics )

and then branch out to other references

DrChinese is right there is no why/ we observe an interesting event and attempt to model it in math. if successful we have the beginnings of a theory then we study the math under different circumstances and try to make predictions that can be tested (we still don't know why only what we see in the math) and if it checks out then we have a theory.

from the poetry corner:
I do the math,
I touch the sky,
I can see how,
I just don't know why.
-- jmm 2012
 
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asb84 said:
Hi guys, I'm definitely a beginner when it comes to quantum mechanics but I've recently been reading about Bell's Theorem and have become intrigued by its implications, specifically the nonlocality principle where electrons seem to be able to communicate with each other simultaneously. I understand the results of the expiriment but it is driving me crazy because it is just so hard to accept that this could be true. Do you know of any resource that describes the possible explanations of nonlocality in layman's terms (i.e. something a beginner could possible understand)? Thanks!

Welcome to physicsforums!

Here is a thread on Bell's theorem with easy explanations: Bell's Theorem - Easy explained

For nonlocality I recommend reading this post on the Backreaction blog: Nonlocal correlations between the Canary Islands
It assumes though that you know about Minkowski diagrams and light cones.

Once you have understood the concept of a light cone consider the following situation (see attachment, but rightclick on it and open it in a new tab):
You have two detectors A and B and each of them measures a particle of the entangled pair.
M(A) and M(B) denote the measurements at A and B.
When a measurement takes place we suppose a signal of the outcome is emitted. For example if you measure spin-up at detector A a signal is emitted at M(A) (see forward light cone).
This signal could reach the other particle flying to B and influence it, i.e. it tells the second particle to have spin-down, provided that M(B) lies in the forward light cone of M(A).

To prevent this we put M(B) outside of M(A)'s light cone, i.e. the measurement M(B) takes place before the signal can reach the particle flying to B. So, there is no way M(A) can have an influence on M(B).

However, let's assume that the light cone is time-symmetric, i.e. the light cone also moves backward in time. We call this the backward light cone (see attachment). This backward light cone reaches the source at t=0 which means that it could have influenced the particle flying to B and told it to have spin-down. This is known as backward causation. (I have read about it in the paper Bell's inequality and 'ghost-like action-at-a-distance' in quantum mechanics by Richard D Mattuck.)

You can read about it here:

1. Backward Causation (Plato Stanford).
Read the section that starts with "Costa de Beauregard".

2. Action at a Distance in Quantum Mechanics (Plato Stanford)
See Figure 3.

The idea of a backward light cone looks good in the drawing but it has a problem. It means that a future event can influence the past.
 

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1. What is Bell's Theorem?

Bell's Theorem is a principle in quantum mechanics that states that it is impossible for any theory to describe reality in terms of both local hidden variables and quantum mechanics. It was first proposed by physicist John Stewart Bell in 1964.

2. Why is Bell's Theorem important?

Bell's Theorem is important because it provides a way to test the validity of quantum mechanics and its predictions. It also has implications for our understanding of the nature of reality and the role of randomness in the universe.

3. How does Bell's Theorem relate to entanglement?

Bell's Theorem is often used to explain the phenomenon of quantum entanglement, where two particles become connected in such a way that the state of one particle affects the state of the other, regardless of the distance between them. Bell's Theorem shows that this is not due to hidden variables, but rather a fundamental property of quantum mechanics.

4. Can Bell's Theorem be proven?

Bell's Theorem has been tested and confirmed through various experiments, known as Bell tests. These tests involve measuring the correlations between entangled particles and have consistently shown that the predictions of quantum mechanics are correct and that local hidden variables cannot explain the results.

5. How can I learn more about Bell's Theorem?

There are many resources available for learning about Bell's Theorem, including books, articles, and online lectures. It is recommended to have a basic understanding of quantum mechanics before diving into Bell's Theorem. Some recommended resources include "Bell's Theorem and the Foundations of Modern Physics" by John Bell and "The Quantum Universe: Everything That Can Happen Does Happen" by Brian Cox and Jeff Forshaw.

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