How do you isolate for y when 0 = 2y + e^y

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In summary, to isolate for y in the equation 0 = 2y + e^y - 4x + 3, you can use the Lambert W-function to put it in the form of g(x,y)e^{g(x,y)}=h(x), and then take the W function of both sides to obtain g(x,y)=W(h). This allows you to isolate y in terms of the Lambert W-function and x. It may also be helpful to use Wolfram Alpha for a visual representation of the solution.
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How do you isolate for y when you have the equation 0 = 2y + e^y - 4x + 3?

Any tips, useful links or solutions and an explanation would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
 
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Numerics seems to be the only way. Usually when you have to isolate a variable that's acted on by different types of functions, it's very difficult or impossible to do analytically.
 
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In a lot of situations, it's not necessary to get analytic solutions. What is this for?
 
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The "Wolfram Alpha" solution that johnqwertyful links to use the "Lambert W function" which is defined as the inverse function to [itex]f(x)= xe^x[/itex]. It cannot be written in terms of any simpler function.
 
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MathewsMD said:
How do you isolate for y when you have the equation 0 = 2y + e^y - 4x + 3?

Any tips, useful links or solutions and an explanation would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Well, when we have these mixed exponential equations, we try to put it in Lambert-W form. That is, in the form:

[tex]g(x,y)e^{g(x,y)}=h(x)[/tex]

Then by definition of the Lambert W function which you can look up, we take the W function of both sides and obtain:

[tex]g(x,y)=W(h)[/tex]

Now, doing a little moving around of your equation:

[tex]1/2 e^y=2x-3/2-y[/tex]
[tex]1/2 e^{2x-3/2}=e^{-y} e^{2x-3/2}(2x-3/2-y)[/tex]

or:

[tex](2x-3/2-y)e^{2x-3/2-y}=1/2 e^{2/x-3/2}[/tex]

I'll let you finish it to isolate y in terms of the perfectly valid (multi-valued) function of x in terms of the Lambert W-function.
 
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1. How do you isolate for y in the equation 0 = 2y + e^y?

To isolate for y in this equation, we can use algebraic manipulation. First, we subtract e^y from both sides to get -e^y = 2y. Then, we divide both sides by 2 to get y = -e^y/2. This is the isolated value of y.

2. What is the purpose of isolating for y in an equation?

Isolating for y allows us to solve for the specific value of y in the equation, rather than just having a general expression. This can be useful in finding the solution to a problem or understanding the relationship between variables in a given situation.

3. Is the isolated value of y the only solution to the equation?

No, the isolated value of y is not necessarily the only solution to the equation. There may be other values of y that also satisfy the equation, but isolating for y gives us one specific solution.

4. Can you use a calculator to solve for y in this equation?

Yes, you can use a calculator to solve for y in this equation. However, it is important to understand the steps and methods of isolating variables in equations manually, as it can be useful in more complex equations or situations where a calculator may not be available.

5. Are there any restrictions or limitations when isolating for y in an equation?

There may be some restrictions or limitations when isolating for y in an equation, such as when the equation includes variables that cannot be solved for algebraically. In these cases, other methods such as numerical approximations may be used to find a solution.

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