Seeking Help with Gain Calculation

In summary, Raju is from India and is currently in his first year of degree doing Electronics and Electrical Engineering. He has a problem with a circuit he has attached and is looking for help from the community. The gain of the amplifier is unknown to him and he would appreciate any help he can get. He has access to a SPICE program but is unsure about how to use it. The LED in the circuit is for temperature compensation and the feedback arrangement is not very stable. Raju asks if anyone can help him out with his problem and ends with a plea for help.
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Hi,

My name is raju and I am from India. I am in my first year of Degree doing Electronics and Electrical Engineering. I am having a bit of problem with this circuit I am attaching the circuit diagram.

Can anyone please tell me what is the gain of the amplifier and how can I found it. Please i would really appreciate if anyone can help me out. I am about to have my exams and i am preparing but i just can't figure out this circuit please help me..
 

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Welcome to the PF, raju. I've moved your post from the EE forum to here in the Homework Help forums.

How would you go about analyzing this circuit? What can you tell us about the various parts of the circuit? Why in the world is an LED being used (at very low current BTW) for the input stage current bias setting?
 
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And the overall amplifier circuit does not appear to be very stable -- has this circuit been built or analyzed?
 
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No I have not build this circuit. I was searching on the internet finding some examples regarding JFET amplifiers when i came across this. I think that it is a Differential Fet cascode configuration in which one of the transistor is working as a voltage buffer and the other as a current buffer. I know how to work out the differential amplifier gain for BJT and I think same can be aplied for JFETs but i dnt have that much idea about the FET cascode. I am sorry i dnt know why he used an 2N4401 and specially the 100G resistor I have never seen someone using a 100G resistor.
 
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raju20 said:
Hi,
No I have not build this circuit. I was searching on the internet finding some examples regarding JFET amplifiers when i came across this. I think that it is a Differential Fet cascode configuration in which one of the transistor is working as a voltage buffer and the other as a current buffer. I know how to work out the differential amplifier gain for BJT and I think same can be aplied for JFETs but i dnt have that much idea about the FET cascode. I am sorry i dnt know why he used an 2N4401 and specially the 100G resistor I have never seen someone using a 100G resistor.

The 100G resistor is just in the schematic for simulation purposes, most likely. It certainly is not a physical component. I also don't like the under-biased LED being used in the BJT bias circuit -- that's really goofy, unless there is some magic reason for using it.

Do you have access to a SPICE program? You could try simulating the circuit, although like I said, it sure doen't look like it has a very stable feedback arrangement. I doubt that the output opamp will appreciate all the phase shift and delay from having the diffamp in its feedback path...
 
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I know this is an old post but I think the LED as the bias is for temperature compensation. I have seen this in transistor current source applications, never used it myself but the led junction has the opposite TC as the Vbe junction. Well almost.

re: From WIKI

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Const_cur_src_113.gif
 
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1. What is gain calculation?

Gain calculation is a mathematical process used to measure the increase in a system's output compared to its input. It is commonly used in fields such as electrical engineering, signal processing, and finance to evaluate the performance of a system.

2. Why is gain calculation important?

Gain calculation allows us to quantify the effectiveness or efficiency of a system. It helps us understand how much the output has changed in relation to the input, which is crucial in determining the overall performance of a system.

3. How is gain calculated?

Gain is typically calculated by dividing the change in output by the change in input. In other words, it is the ratio of the output signal to the input signal. The result is usually expressed in decibels (dB) or as a percentage.

4. What are some common applications of gain calculation?

Gain calculation is used in a wide range of fields, including electronics, acoustics, telecommunications, and finance. It is used to measure the amplification of signals in electronic circuits, the loudness of sound systems, the power of radio signals, and the return on investment in financial markets.

5. Are there any limitations to gain calculation?

While gain calculation is a useful tool, it is important to note that it only provides a quantitative measure of a system's performance. It does not take into account other factors such as noise, distortion, or system stability. Therefore, it should be used in conjunction with other measures to fully evaluate a system's performance.

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