Adjusting Output Voltage with Potentiometers

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In summary, the conversation discusses regulating the output voltage of a TI PTR08100W chip that is connected to 2 x 3.7V batteries in series. The desired voltage range is 3.7V to 6V, and it is determined that a potentiometer between 200 and 400 ohms is needed. The possibility of acquiring a potentiometer with this range is discussed, as well as alternative solutions for regulating the voltage. It is suggested to use a resistor and a potentiometer to achieve the desired range, with the potentiometer being easily adjustable for the user. The issue of burning up the potentiometer is also addressed. The conversation ends with a question about the wattage and tolerance needed for
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Hi,

I have 2 x 3.7V (7.4V) batteries connected in series running through a TI PTR08100W chip. I need to regulate the output voltage so that it is variable, ideally between 3.7 and 6V. From the website listed below i have determined i need a potentiometer that ranges between 200 and 400ohms but i am not 100% sure of this value. Is this correct and is it possible to acquire a potentiometer of this range? Also where could i find one?

What i am trying to do is regulate a 7.4V input voltage to a variable output voltage of 3.7V - 6V via a potentionmeter. If what i have said above is nonsense, please advise of the best solution to my dilema.

Here is more info on the chip - “http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ptr08100w.pdf” [Broken]

Thanks
 
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That link didn't work for me, here is the one I used.
http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/slts284e/slts284e.pdf [Broken]

Since the PTR08100W module can already adjust its output from 0.6 V to 5.5 V, why do you need the pot? It appears this module is capable of 10 amps output or whatever your batteries can supply. That will burn up most potentiometers.
 
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we need something so that the user can manually adjust there desired voltage from 3.7-6V ideally via a knob or switch. how can we do this using PTR08100W ? Or is it not possible?

Thanks for the reply
 
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misteliquid said:
we need something so that the user can manually adjust there desired voltage from 3.7-6V ideally via a knob or switch. how can we do this using PTR08100W ? Or is it not possible?

Thanks for the reply

Table 2 in the datasheet shows how to adjust the "Adjust" resistor value to control the output voltage.
 
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Sorry if i don't understand you properly but what i think you are saying is we can change it via a resistor, based on the strength of resistance. We want it to be easily changable for the user via a knob or switch as opposed to swapping a resistor out of the circuit each time you want a different output voltage. I don't think you can do this with the chip but if i am wrong could you maybe post how to? Or anyother solution?

Thanks for the reply
 
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misteliquid said:
Sorry if i don't understand you properly but what i think you are saying is we can change it via a resistor, based on the strength of resistance. We want it to be easily changable for the user via a knob or switch as opposed to swapping a resistor out of the circuit each time you want a different output voltage. I don't think you can do this with the chip but if i am wrong could you maybe post how to? Or anyother solution?

Thanks for the reply

From the table, it looks like the resistance needs to vary between 131k Ohms (for 5.5V out) to 241 Ohms (for 0.6V out), you would use a 100k Ohm potentiometer in series with a 243 Ohm resistor (the closest 1% resistor value to 241) to get most of that range, or you could use a 200k Ohm pot in parallel with a resistor to get you closer to the 131k Ohm max value (and still add the 243 Ohm resistor in series with that to get you the low end value when the pot is adjusted to zero).

Since you want the voltage to go up when you turn the pot in the CW direction (that's the intuitive standard anyway), you would connect the wiper of the pot to the CW end of the pot. That way, when the wiper is at full CW position, it is not shorting out any of the pot, and you get full resistance. When the pot is turned fully CCW, the pot is shorted out to zero resistance.
 
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Thanks for the detailed reply. I think we only need a max resistance of around 400 Ohms though as we don't need our output voltage to drop lower than 3.6V. Which would mean we would need a pot ranging from 400 to 0 Ohms (as your idea about the 243 Ohm resistor in series would work here). So my final question would be does this low level of resistance exist in a pot? and if so where could i purchase one?

skeptic2 said:
It appears this module is capable of 10 amps output or whatever your batteries can supply. That will burn up most potentiometers.

In relation to this, what does skeptic2 mean and will my pot burn up?

Thanks again
 
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misteliquid said:
Thanks for the detailed reply. I think we only need a max resistance of around 400 Ohms though as we don't need our output voltage to drop lower than 3.6V. Which would mean we would need a pot ranging from 400 to 0 Ohms (as your idea about the 243 Ohm resistor in series would work here). So my final question would be does this low level of resistance exist in a pot? and if so where could i purchase one?

You can buy pots at Radio Shack or other electronics stores, or online at places like Digikey or Mouser Electronics. It looks like 470 Ohms is the closest value to what you are looking for:

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=262965&k=potentiometer

In relation to this, what does skeptic2 mean and will my pot burn up?

Thanks again

That was because he thought you were passing the current through a pot, not using it to adjust the regulator, I believe.
 
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Thanks for all your help i think that's all we need :)
 
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Clicking on your very useful link we have stumbled into a few more questions:

Resistance In Ohms - 470
Power (Watts) - ?
Tolerance - ?

Based on our calculations above what wattage and tolerance would we need?

Also do you reckon an easier method would be to use a coiled resistor then tap the coil at pre determined resistances and use a multi switch to choose a desired tapped voltage output? This way the voltage could be fixed at 3 different settings which is ideally what we want.

Thanks again for your much appreciated time.
 
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misteliquid said:
Clicking on your very useful link we have stumbled into a few more questions:

Resistance In Ohms - 470
Power (Watts) - ?
Tolerance - ?

Based on our calculations above what wattage and tolerance would we need?

Also do you reckon an easier method would be to use a coiled resistor then tap the coil at pre determined resistances and use a multi switch to choose a desired tapped voltage output? This way the voltage could be fixed at 3 different settings which is ideally what we want.

Thanks again for your much appreciated time.

I believe that the adjustment resistor is low power, but you can check that yourself in the datasheet. Does it say what the voltage is at the Adjust pin? Having the minimum resistance always present (in the extra series resistor) will help to keep the power dissipation low for the pot.

And as for tolerance, as long as the maximum resistance of the pot plus the tolerance is okay for your adjustment range, you should be fine. It's all up to you in your design of the output voltage range.
 

1. What is a potentiometer?

A potentiometer is an electronic component that is used to measure or adjust the level of an electrical signal. It consists of a variable resistor with three terminals that can be adjusted to change the resistance.

2. How does a potentiometer work?

A potentiometer works by varying the resistance in a circuit. It has a fixed resistor and a movable wiper that can be adjusted to change the resistance. The voltage level at the wiper terminal is directly proportional to the resistance between the wiper and one of the fixed terminals.

3. What are the different types of potentiometers?

There are three main types of potentiometers: linear, logarithmic, and digital. Linear potentiometers have a linear relationship between the wiper position and the resistance. Logarithmic potentiometers have a logarithmic relationship, making them suitable for audio applications. Digital potentiometers use digital signals to adjust the resistance.

4. How do I choose the right potentiometer for my project?

The right potentiometer for your project will depend on your specific application. Factors to consider include the type of control (linear or logarithmic), the resistance range, and the power rating. It is also important to consider the physical size and mounting options of the potentiometer.

5. What are some common applications of potentiometers?

Potentiometers are commonly used in various electronic devices, such as audio equipment, dimmer switches, and volume controls. They are also used in industrial applications for measuring and controlling voltage, current, and temperature. In addition, potentiometers are used in scientific research and experiments to measure and adjust electrical signals.

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