Advanced numerical solution of differential equation

In summary, the explicit Runge-Kutta scheme with a particular choice of $h$ applied to the equation $y'= y(1-y)$ has two spurious fixed points $y=0$ and $y=1$ when $h>2$. To investigate their stability, one can rearrange the scheme and plug in the fixed points to find that $y=0$ and $y=1$ satisfy the iteration, but further analysis with a computer algebra system is needed to determine if there are other real roots. To determine stability, one can use the linearized fixed point equation and check if its derivative is less than, greater than, or equal to 1.
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rickyflair
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Show that the explicit Runge-Kutta scheme
\begin{equation} \frac {y_{n+1} -y_{n}}{h}= \frac{1}{2} [f(t,y_{n} + f(t+h, y_{n}+hk_{1})]
\end{equation}
where $k_{1} = f(t,y_{n})$

applied to the equation $y'= y(1-y)$ has two spurious fixed points if $h>2$.

Briefy describe how you would investigate their stability.

=> my attempt so far
from $y'= y(1-y)$

$y'= 0$

$y=0$ or
$y=1$ which are the true fixed points.
after that i rearranged the runge kutta scheme
\begin{equation} \frac {y_{n+1} -y_{n}}{h}= \frac{1}{2} [f(t,y_{n} + f(t+h, y_{n}+hk_{1})]
\end{equation}
\begin{equation} y_{n+1} = y_{n} + \frac{h}{2} [f(t,y_{n} + f(t+h, y_{n}+hf(t,y_{n})]
\end{equation}
i try to put the fixed points into above scheme and try to get two two Spurious fixed point for $y_{n}$ but i got struck. for the stability to describe i need to get two Spurious fixed point first. but in general please help to describe stability too because this part i really get confuse. Anyone please help me, it will be really helpful for my other problems too if i got this answer correctly.
 
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  • #2
rickyflair said:
Show that the explicit Runge-Kutta scheme
\begin{equation} \frac {y_{n+1} -y_{n}}{h}= \frac{1}{2} [f(t,y_{n} + f(t+h, y_{n}+hk_{1})]
\end{equation}
where $k_{1} = f(t,y_{n})$

applied to the equation $y'= y(1-y)$ has two spurious fixed points if $h>2$.

Briefy describe how you would investigate their stability.

=> my attempt so far
from $y'= y(1-y)$

$y'= 0$

$y=0$ or
$y=1$ which are the true fixed points.
after that i rearranged the runge kutta scheme
\begin{equation} \frac {y_{n+1} -y_{n}}{h}= \frac{1}{2} [f(t,y_{n} + f(t+h, y_{n}+hk_{1})]
\end{equation}
\begin{equation} y_{n+1} = y_{n} + \frac{h}{2} [f(t,y_{n} + f(t+h, y_{n}+hf(t,y_{n})]
\end{equation}
i try to put the fixed points into above scheme and try to get two two Spurious fixed point for $y_{n}$ but i got struck. for the stability to describe i need to get two Spurious fixed point first. but in general please help to describe stability too because this part i really get confuse. Anyone please help me, it will be really helpful for my other problems too if i got this answer correctly.

Your [itex]f(t,y)[/itex] doesn't actually depend on [itex]t[/itex], so you may as well drop it and write [itex]f(y) = y(1 - y)[/itex].

A fixed point of the iteration will satisfy [itex]y_{n+1} = y_n = y[/itex], which gives you
[tex]
0 = f(y + f(y + hf(y))).
[/tex] Now for [itex]y = 0[/itex] and [itex]y = 1[/itex] you have [itex]f(y) = 0[/itex], so they satisfy the above and are fixed points of the iteration. But [itex]f(y + f(y + hf(y)))[/itex] is here an eighth-order polynomial in [itex]y[/itex], so it might have other real roots aside from [itex]y = 0[/itex] and [itex]y = 1[/itex]. But determining that really requires the aid of a CAS.

For stability: a fixed point [itex]y[/itex] of [itex]y_{n+1} = g(y_n)[/itex] is stable if [itex]|g'(y)| < 1[/itex], unstable if [itex]|g'(y)| > 1[/itex] and indeterminate at linear order if [itex]|g'(y)| = 1[/itex].
 
  • #3
Thank you sir. that was really helpful.
 

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