Proving D is a Semi-Ring and Identifying \sigma (D) in [0,1]

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In summary, the conversation discusses proving that D, the collection of all finite subsets (including the empty set) of [0,1], is a semi-ring and determining its sigma algebra, \sigma(D). It also covers defining \mu, a premeasure on D, and identifying its outer measure, \mu_{e}, and the collection of all \mu_{e} measurable sets, \Sigma_{mu_{e}}. The completeness of ([0,1], \sigma(D), \mu_{e}) is also discussed and it is shown that ([0,1], \sigma(D), \mu_{e}) is not equal to ([0,1], \Sigma_{mu_{e}}, \mu_{e}). The conversation
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Homework Statement



Let D be the collection of all finite subsets ( including the empty set) of [0,1].
Prove that D is a semi-ring. What is [tex]\sigma(D)[/tex] ? Define on D: [tex]\mu (A)[/tex]=#A . Prove that [tex]\mu[/tex] is a premeasure and identify [tex]\mu_{e}[/tex] and
[tex]\Sigma_{mu_{e}}[/tex] . Is ([0,1],[tex]\sigma (D)[/tex], [tex]\mu_{e}[/tex]) complete?
Prove that ([0,1],[tex]\sigma (D)[/tex], [tex]\mu_{e}[/tex]) [tex]\neq[/tex]
([0,1],[tex]\Sigma_{mu_{e}}[/tex],[tex]\mu_{e}[/tex]).

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[tex]\mu_{e}[/tex] is the outer measure,
[tex]\Sigma_{mu_{e}}[/tex] is the collection of all [tex]\mu_{e}[/tex] measurable sets.

[tex]\sigma (D)[/tex] is the sigma algebra generated by D

The Attempt at a Solution


showing that D is a semi ring is clear.
but [tex]\sigma (D)[/tex] is a little unclear, since it must be closed under complementation, so if A [tex]\in[/tex] D, then A is a finite set, but A[tex]^{c}[/tex]
may not be a finite set.
showing that [tex]\mu[/tex] is a pre-measure is clear.
any comments for the rest is appreciated.
 
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Um, the complement of a finite set in [0,1] will definitely not be finite. But why is that a problem? Doesn't it just make the sigma algebra generated by D the collection of all sets with finite complement in [0,1] and their complements?

Edit: Oh, sorry, it has to be closed under countable unions, so I guess it's not that simple.
 
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Why stick to finiteness? sigma algebras work well with countability. The sigma algebra generated by D certainly contains all countable sets and sets whose complement is countable (i.e. cocountable sets); can it contain anything else?
 

1. What is a semi-ring?

A semi-ring is a set with two binary operations, usually denoted by addition and multiplication, that follow certain properties. These properties include closure, associativity, and distributivity. In other words, a semi-ring is a generalization of a ring without requiring the existence of additive inverses.

2. How do you prove that D is a semi-ring?

In order to prove that D is a semi-ring, we need to show that it satisfies the properties of a semi-ring. This includes demonstrating closure, associativity, and distributivity for the two binary operations defined on D. In addition, we also need to show that the identity element for addition and multiplication exist in D.

3. What is the significance of identifying \sigma (D) in [0,1]?

The set \sigma (D) in [0,1] represents the smallest semi-ring containing D. In other words, it is the intersection of all semi-rings containing D. By identifying \sigma (D) in [0,1], we can determine the essential properties of D and understand its relationship with other semi-rings.

4. How does proving D is a semi-ring relate to other areas of mathematics?

The concept of a semi-ring has applications in various areas of mathematics, including algebra, topology, and measure theory. For example, semi-rings are used in measure theory to define the Lebesgue measure on a set. They are also used in topology to define the concept of a closed set.

5. Can D be a semi-ring if it does not satisfy all the properties?

No, in order for D to be considered a semi-ring, it must satisfy all the properties of a semi-ring. If a set does not satisfy all the properties, it cannot be classified as a semi-ring. However, a set that satisfies some, but not all, of the properties may still be considered a semi-ringoid or a pre-semi-ring.

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