Can a ball roll fast enough that it becomes airbourne while rolling?

In summary, there are several factors that can cause a ball rolling down a steep ramp to temporarily become airborne. These include imperfections in the ramp or ball, air resistance, and the effects of gravity, Coanda, and Magnus on the ball's movement. While the ball may appear to be "flying," it is actually being propelled by these forces and not truly airborne.
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For ex, say you were rolling a ball down a steep ramp (about 85-90 degrees to horizontal, so almost straight). The ramp is say at least 100m long so there's enough time for the ball to build up velocity, etc.

Is it possible for any circumstances to happen where the ball would temporarily become airbourne as its rolling?

I couldn't reason out any way for this to happen, (I'm not very knowledgeable in concepts/theory though..)
Is there a way for this happen? If so, could someone explain / link me to a page that talks about it?

Thanks!
 
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If the ramp (or your ball) is not perfect, the ball can bounce at small bumps in the ramp, and become airborne for a while.
If the ramp is perfect, but you have air, this can lift the ball.
 
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Or if the ramp is curved it can happen. Imagine a ball rolling down the outside of a sphere. At some point the ball will have enough horizontal velocity that it will leave the surface of the sphere.
 
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The steeper the angle of the ramp the less gravitational force there is holding the ball to it.
As the ball pushes air out of its way some of the air will get compressed between the ball and the ramp creating pressure which will act to push the ball away from the ramp.
At any given ramp angle there will be a certain velocity where the pressure is greater then the gravitational force and the ball will break contact with the ramp. At a certain angle or steeper gravitation will provide enough force to accelerate the ball to that velocity.
So the answer to your question is yes, though I do not know how to calculate the required velocity or angle.
 
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There are several effects:
The ball has “top spin” so it will fall due to the Magnus effect.
The ball will “stick” to the surface due to the Coanda effect.
When above the speed of sound in air, the ball will lift on compressed air trapped between the ball and the surface.
 
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Baluncore said:
The ball has “top spin” so it will fall due to the Magnus effect.
The flow on the bottom half of the ball is restricted, and this would interfere with Magnus effect.

Seems the issue is if the ball reaches terminal velocity due to drag before it's moving fast enough to "plane" off the surface that it is rolling on.
 
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Obstruction of the Magnus effect by the presence of the ramp will only occur on the ball's narrow equatorial zone where the friction of contact causes the ball to rotate. The majority of the ball will retain a boundary layer. The boundary layer at the point on the ball furthest from the ramp will be traveling at twice the speed of the ball's centre.

In reality, for a close to vertical ramp, the ball will bounce down the surface. Any imperfection in the ramp, (or ball), will impulse the ball away, then the ramp slope, the Coanda and the Magnus effects will bring it back to bounce again. On average the ball will not be in contact with the ramp. For a steep ramp the ball may be in contact for less than 1% of the time. It could not really be called “flying”, nor does the term “airborne” describe it as it is not actually being carried or supported by the air. Indeed, the air is acting to hold it to the ramp. It is more like skipping a stone on a pond.
 

1. Can a ball really become airborne just by rolling?

Yes, a ball can become airborne while rolling if it reaches a high enough speed and has a low enough friction on the surface it is rolling on.

2. How fast does a ball have to roll to become airborne?

The speed required for a ball to become airborne while rolling depends on various factors such as the size and weight of the ball, the surface it is rolling on, and the angle of the surface. Generally, the ball needs to reach a speed of at least 10 meters per second to become airborne.

3. What is the principle behind a ball becoming airborne while rolling?

The principle behind a ball becoming airborne while rolling is the conservation of energy. As the ball rolls, it gains kinetic energy which is then used to overcome the force of gravity and lift the ball off the ground.

4. Can any type of ball become airborne while rolling?

Yes, any type of ball can become airborne while rolling as long as it meets the speed and surface requirements. However, some balls may require a higher speed and smoother surface compared to others.

5. Is it possible for a ball to stay airborne while continuously rolling?

No, a ball cannot stay airborne while continuously rolling as it will eventually lose its speed and fall back to the ground due to friction and air resistance. The duration of the ball being airborne will depend on its speed and the surface it is rolling on.

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