Symmetric, antisymmetric and parity

In summary, the separation between two non-interacting particles in an infinite square well depends on their states and whether they are distinguishable, identical bosons, or identical fermions. If their states have opposite parity, they can be separated, but if their states are the same, they cannot be separated. This is due to the wave nature and Pauli exclusion principle for fermions.
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Let me see if I can make it clearer.

Problem 5.5 In David Griffiths “Introduction to Quantum Mechanics” says:

Imagine two non interacting particles, each of mass m, in the infinite square well. If one is in the state psin and the other in state psim orthogonal to psin, calculate < (x1 - x2) 2 >, assuming that (a) they are distinguishable particles, (b) they are identical bosons, (c) they are identical fermions.

(a) a2 [1/6 – (1/2pi2)(1/n2 + 1/m2)]

(b) The answer to (a) - (128*a2*m2n2) / (pi4(m2 - n2)4)

But this last term is present only when m,n have opposite parity.

(c) The answer to (a) plus the term added in (b) with the same stipulation as in (b)

What does this mean? It seams to be saying that all three particles would have the same separation unless their states have opposite parity. Is this correct? Bosons and Fermions would have the same separation unless their states have odd parities? I never heard of this before, how does this work?
 
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Yes, this is correct. This is due to the wave nature of the particles and the Pauli exclusion principle for fermions. If the two particles have the same state, then their wave functions overlap and the two particles cannot be separated. If the two particles have states of opposite parity, then their wave functions do not overlap, and so they can be separated. For bosons, the wave functions can overlap, but the total wave function must remain symmetric, leading to a larger separation between the particles.
 
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In quantum mechanics, particles can be described by their wavefunctions, which contain information about their position, momentum, and other properties. In the case of identical particles, such as the two non-interacting particles in the infinite square well, the wavefunction must also take into account the symmetry of the system.

Symmetry refers to the behavior of the wavefunction under exchange of the two particles. If the wavefunction remains unchanged, it is called symmetric. If the wavefunction changes sign, it is called antisymmetric.

Parity is a specific type of symmetry that refers to the behavior of the wavefunction under reflection. If the wavefunction remains unchanged, it is called even parity. If the wavefunction changes sign, it is called odd parity.

In the problem described, the calculation of < (x1 - x2) 2 > depends on the symmetry of the system. For distinguishable particles, the calculation is straightforward and does not depend on their states. However, for identical particles, the calculation also takes into account the symmetry of their wavefunctions.

In the case of identical bosons, the wavefunction must be symmetric, which leads to the additional term in the calculation. This term only appears when the states of the particles have opposite parity, meaning that they are in odd parity states. Similarly, for identical fermions, the wavefunction must be antisymmetric, which also leads to an additional term in the calculation. This term also only appears when the states of the particles have opposite parity, meaning that they are in even parity states.

In summary, the calculation of < (x1 - x2) 2 > in this problem takes into account the symmetry of the system, which is determined by the types of particles and their states. This can result in different values for the separation of the particles, depending on the symmetry of their wavefunctions. This concept is important in understanding the behavior of identical particles in quantum mechanics.
 

What is symmetry?

Symmetry is a mathematical concept that describes an object or system that remains unchanged when it undergoes a certain transformation, such as rotation, reflection, or translation.

What is antisymmetry?

Antisymmetry is a mathematical property that describes a relation or operation that is symmetric when the order of the elements is reversed. In other words, if A is related to B, then B cannot be related to A.

What is parity?

Parity is a concept in physics that describes the symmetry or asymmetry of a physical system under a specified transformation. In particle physics, it refers to the sign of the wave function of a particle under spatial inversion.

How are symmetry and antisymmetry related?

Symmetry and antisymmetry are two opposite properties that can be applied to a system or relation. A symmetric system remains unchanged under a transformation, while an antisymmetric system changes sign under the same transformation.

What are some examples of symmetrical and antisymmetrical systems?

Some examples of symmetrical systems include a circle, a square, and a regular polygon. Examples of antisymmetrical systems include a Möbius strip and a Klein bottle. In physics, the spin of a particle is also an example of an antisymmetric property.

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