Beyond the photon starting point and our universe.

In summary, the universe may be infinite, but our visible universe is not the entire universe. It may have been born when a black hole exploded, and other big bang events could take place in this infinite universe.
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This may seem like a stupid question but I am asking in curiosity: If the boundary where we can see no further of our universe is the starting point of the farthest photon that has reached us then is it possible that the universe is infinite but our visible universe is not the entire universe and our universe was born when a black hole having the mass of our universe exploded and thus we have our big bang in this particular part of the infinite universe? This would allow for other big bang events in this infinite universe would it not?

This though just struck me and I just want to say that I accept the mainstream and not other debunked theories.
 
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If cosmic inflation is the correct explanation of the history of our universe, then it is possible that outside our visible patch (or Hubble volume) of the universe, the cosmic evolution (expansion rate, initial conditions, physical constants, etc.) could be different. These possibilities are included in what are sometimes called Level I and II multiverse hypotheses. An observer in any individual Hubble volume of the total universe would see his visible universe as a particular cosmological model, but would be unable to communicate his measurements to an observer in a different patch.

However, the expanding universe refers to the expansion of spacetime, not just to the movement of galaxies and stars. Spacetime itself is changing, it's not just matter flying around as if an explosion had occurred. That picture is an inaccurate one used to try to illustrate some concepts to the layperson. However, it is misleading if one tries to attach too much physical significance to it.

We don't really know what the initial state of our universe was, though there are various hypotheses. If we try to follow your suggestion that it was a large black hole, we would still need to explain why it exploded. Large black holes are fairly stable objects. They give off very low temperature Hawking radiation and would be expected to survive for a very long time (think billions of years). After they've radiated off most of their mass (we're now talking several Planck mass-sized black holes, not universe-sized ones), it's expected that they become unstable, since they are now very hot and burning rapidly. The end state of this decay is also an unsolved problem in quantum gravity, but it doesn't directly shed light on the big bang.
 
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Thank you. Such wondrous things await us on the path to erudition!
 

1. What is the "photon starting point" and how does it relate to our universe?

The "photon starting point" refers to the moment in the early universe when the first photons were emitted. This is believed to have occurred approximately 380,000 years after the Big Bang. These photons eventually formed the cosmic microwave background radiation, which is the oldest light in the universe. This starting point is significant because it marks the transition from a hot, dense plasma to a transparent universe, allowing light to travel freely and form the structures we see today.

2. How does the study of "beyond the photon starting point" contribute to our understanding of the universe?

The study of "beyond the photon starting point" allows scientists to investigate the earliest moments of the universe, before the formation of atoms and galaxies. This can provide insights into the fundamental laws and processes that govern the universe, such as the nature of dark matter and dark energy. It also helps us understand the origins of the structures and phenomena we observe in the universe today.

3. Can we observe anything before the "photon starting point"?

No, we cannot directly observe anything before the "photon starting point" because the universe was too hot and dense for light to travel freely. However, scientists can infer information about this period through various methods, such as studying the cosmic microwave background radiation and using mathematical models.

4. Are there any theories about what existed before the "photon starting point"?

There are various theories about what existed before the "photon starting point", but they are largely speculative and not yet supported by empirical evidence. Some theories suggest that the universe underwent a period of rapid expansion before the "photon starting point", while others propose the existence of multiple universes or a cyclic universe with no true beginning.

5. How does the concept of "beyond the photon starting point" challenge our current understanding of the universe?

The concept of "beyond the photon starting point" challenges our current understanding of the universe by pushing the boundaries of what we can observe and comprehend. It forces us to consider the limitations of our current scientific theories and to explore new ideas and explanations for the origins of the universe. It also highlights the need for continued research and exploration in order to gain a more complete understanding of the universe and its beginnings.

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