Path Integral/Canonical Quantization of Gauge Theories

In summary, the conversation discusses the frustration of being unable to reproduce the two-point gauge-field correlation function using operators from canonical quantization. The use of polarization vectors and gauge-dependent parts are mentioned, as well as the difference between canonical and path-integral quantization and the importance of gauge-invariant observables. The use of different gauges and propagators is also highlighted, as well as the explanation of the Gupta-Bleuler formalism and its application in QED. The references for the canonical quantization of gauge fields are provided, along with the explanation of anti-commuting c-numbers and their role in BRST symmetry. The use of ghost fields and their requirement in QED is also mentioned.
  • #1
TriTertButoxy
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I'm really getting frustrated right now, as I am unable to reproduce the two-point gauge-field correlation function (i.e. propagator) as derived from the path integral in an [itex]R_\xi[/itex] gauge using operators from canonical quantization. I believe the polarization 4-vectors of the gauge field ought to depend on the gauge parameter [itex]\xi[/itex] in order for this to work, but no references mention a set of [itex]\xi[/itex]-dependent polarization vectors.

In mathematical notation, I am unable to derive the precise gauge-dependent ([itex]\xi[/itex]-dependent) part of
[tex]\tilde{D}^{\mu\nu}(p)=\frac{-i}{p^2}\left(g^{\mu\nu}-(1-\xi)\frac{p^\mu p^\nu}{p^2}\right)[/tex]​
by calculating the Fourier transform of
[tex]\langle0|T\Big(\hat{A}^\mu (x)\hat{A}^\nu (y)\Big)|0\rangle[/tex]​
using the plane-wave expansion of the gauge field [itex]\hat{A}^\mu(x)[/itex]
[tex]\hat{A}^\mu(x)=\int\frac{d^3 \mathbf{p}}{(2\pi)^3} \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\omega_{\mathbf{p}}}} \sum_\lambda\left(\epsilon_{[\lambda]}^\mu(\mathbf{p})\hat{a}_\mathbf{p}e^{-ipx}+\text{h.c.}\right)[/tex]​
In order for me to be able to successfully get this to work, the commutation relations of the ladder operators and/or the polarization vectors need to carry a [itex]\xi[/itex]-dependence. I would very much like any references that goes through the derivation of the canonical quantization of gauge fields in great detail, and also demonstrates how it is consistent with the path-integral quantization.
 
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  • #2
Usually canonical quantization and PI quantization use different gauges; the propagator is gauge dependent, so it's hard to compare - and physically irrelevant b/c all what matters are gauge-invariant observables.

You are looking for a propagator [tex]D_{\mu\nu}(p)[/tex] in the Lorentz gauge [tex]\partial_\mu A^\mu=0[/tex] which is an unphysical gauge and which has several drawbacks in the canonical formalism (the latter one is not manifest Lorentz covariant so it doesn't make much sense to study a covariant but unphysical gauge; the Gupta-Bleuler formalism does not work for non-abelian gauge fields; so in many cases the canonical formalism comes with physical gauges, e.g. Weyl gauge or/plus Coulomb gauge).

The canonical formalism in QED with Lorentz gauge is called Gupta-Bleuler formalism; perhaps you can find some references in the internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupta–Bleuler_formalism

I am not sure but I think in Itzykson-Zuber "Quantum Field Theory" this formalism is explained in some detail.
 
  • #3
Well, yes; the propagator is gauge dependent. But when people calculate scattering amplitudes, they are using propagators inside their diagrams from the path integral quantization, and polarization vectors from canonical quantization, which seems totally inconsistent to me.
 
  • #4
The reason might be that in most textbook treatments of the operator formalism are either done in the Coulomb gauge (radiation gauge for the free photon field), which is not manifestly gauge covariant, or in Feynman gauge, which means setting [itex]\xi=1[/itex] in your formula for [itex]R_{\xi}[/itex] gauge.

Of course, you can also take an arbitrary value for [itex]\xi[/itex] (except [itex]\xi=0[/itex], which is Landau gauge, which is a bit more complicated). Then the commutator relations contain the explicit dependence on [itex]\xi[/itex], and you can directly calculate the Feynman (time-ordered) or retarded propagator in arbitrary [itex]R_{\xi}[/itex] gauges within the covariant operator formalism, which in the case of abelian gauge theories like QED can be simplified to the Gupta-Bleuler formalism. For non-abelian gauge theories, the original papers by Kugo et al are very well written, better than most textbooks on the subject:

Kugo, T., and Ojima, I. Manifestly Covariant Canonical Formulation of the Yang-Mills Field Theories. I. Progress of Theoretical Physics 60, 6 (1978), 1869–1889.

Kugo, T., and Ojima, O. Manifestly Covariant Canonical Formulation of Yang-Mills Field Theories. II: SU (2) Higgs-Kibble Model with Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking. Progress of theoretical physics 61, 1 (1979), 294–314.

Kugo, T., and Ojima, I. Manifestly Covariant Canonical Formulation of Yang-Mills Field Theories. III—Pure Yang-Mills Theories without Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking. Progress of Theoretical Physics 61 (1979), 644–655.
 
  • #5
vanhees71 said:
Kugo, T., and Ojima, I. Manifestly Covariant Canonical Formulation of the Yang-Mills Field Theories. I. Progress of Theoretical Physics 60, 6 (1978), 1869–1889.

Kugo, T., and Ojima, O. Manifestly Covariant Canonical Formulation of Yang-Mills Field Theories. II: SU (2) Higgs-Kibble Model with Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking. Progress of theoretical physics 61, 1 (1979), 294–314.

Kugo, T., and Ojima, I. Manifestly Covariant Canonical Formulation of Yang-Mills Field Theories. III—Pure Yang-Mills Theories without Spontaneous Symmetry Breaking. Progress of Theoretical Physics 61 (1979), 644–655.

This is awesome! Just what I have been looking for.
But in their papers they make references to "anti-commuting c-numbers" which don't make conceptual sense. What do they mean by that? Usually "c-number" means "commuting number"; so is "c" taken to mean "complex" instead of "commuting" in this case? (For example, see the line right below eqn 2.28 in their first paper.
 
  • #6
w/o having Kugo's paper at hand I guess that anti-commuting c-numbers are Grassmann numbers used to describe the fermion fields (anti-commuting for fermions, c-numbers b/c they are numbers and not operators); anyway - they shouldn't play a role for the boson propagator which is defined via the free, purely bosonic Lagrangian + gauge fixing terms
 
  • #7
TriTertButoxy said:
This is awesome! Just what I have been looking for.
But in their papers they make references to "anti-commuting c-numbers" which don't make conceptual sense. What do they mean by that? Usually "c-number" means "commuting number"; so is "c" taken to mean "complex" instead of "commuting" in this case? (For example, see the line right below eqn 2.28 in their first paper.

Have not read the paper, but maybe ghost fields, which are anticommuting scalars.
 
  • #8
Yes, anti-commuting c-numbers are Grassmann numbers. In the description of BRST symmetry it's convenient to choose the group parameters as Grassmann numbers, commuting with bosonic and anti-commuting with fermionic field operators. You can, of course, also use usual c-numbers, but then you have to introduce the appropriate signs for the transformation of fermion-field operators.
 
  • #9
Lapidus said:
but maybe ghost fields, which are anticommuting scalars.
ghosts are not required in QED
 
  • #10
Sure, that's what I meant when I said that for Abelian gauge models like QED the general covariant operator formalism simplifies to the Gupta-Bleuler method. I thought, the OP asked for the general case of non-abelian gauge theories. Of course, for QED it's much simpler to look in textbooks that use the operator formalism like Schweber or Weinberg.
 
  • #11
tom.stoer said:
ghosts are not required in QED

Yes, but all the three papers deal with Yang-Mills theories, so most surely Kugo refers here to what is also known as ghost fields.
 

1. What is path integral quantization?

Path integral quantization is a mathematical framework used in quantum field theory to describe the dynamics of particles and fields. It involves integrating over all possible paths that a particle or field can take, taking into account their interactions with other particles and fields. It is often used to calculate the probability of a particle or field transitioning from one state to another.

2. What is canonical quantization?

Canonical quantization is a method used to quantize classical systems, such as particles or fields, by promoting their classical variables (e.g. position and momentum) to operators in quantum mechanics. This allows for the calculation of quantum mechanical observables, such as energy and momentum, and describes the behavior of systems at the quantum level.

3. How are gauge theories quantized using path integral and canonical methods?

Gauge theories, such as quantum electrodynamics (QED) and quantum chromodynamics (QCD), can be quantized using both path integral and canonical methods. In path integral quantization, the gauge fields are treated as quantum fields and are integrated over all possible paths, while in canonical quantization, the gauge fields are promoted to operators and their commutation relations are determined using the canonical approach.

4. What are the advantages of using path integral quantization over canonical quantization?

Path integral quantization has the advantage of being more suitable for systems with a large number of degrees of freedom, such as gauge theories. It also allows for the use of Feynman diagrams, which are graphical representations of the calculations involved in quantum field theory, making it easier to visualize and understand the interactions between particles and fields. Additionally, path integral quantization can handle non-perturbative effects, while canonical quantization is limited to perturbative calculations.

5. What are the applications of path integral and canonical quantization in modern physics?

Path integral and canonical quantization have numerous applications in modern physics, particularly in the study of elementary particles and their interactions. They are used in the development of quantum field theories, which describe the behavior of particles and fields at the subatomic level. They are also essential in the study of condensed matter systems, such as superconductivity and superfluidity, as well as in the study of cosmology and the early universe.

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