Does the given function have a minimum and maximum?

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In summary: And f'(0-) = -\infty. So, there is neither minimum nor maximum here, since the first derivative has no constant sign near 0. In summary, x = b is maximum, and x = 0 is a minimum.
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Hi

I have been given the following assignment which has caused me some trouble:

The function [tex]f(x) = x^b \cdot e^{-x}[/tex] where [tex]b \in \mathbb{R}_{+}[/tex]

Determine if f has a minimum and a maximum, and find them.

I know that the first step is determine f'(x) which is

[tex]f'(x) = (\frac{b}{x} - ln(e)) \cdot e^{-x} \cdot x^b[/tex]

Any hints what I do next ?

Best Regards

Mathboy20
 
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mathboy20 said:
I know that the first step is determine f'(x) which is

[tex]f'(x) = (\frac{b}{x} - ln(e)) \cdot e^{-x} \cdot x^b[/tex]

Any hints what I do next ?
If there is a minimum or a maximum, the derivative has to be zero there. Watch out though, a zero derivative doesn't necessarily imply an extremem (min or max) but it is a necessary condition. So find the values of x for which [itex]f'(x)=0[/itex].
 
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Do I then choose an abitrary b-value and then solve f'(x) = 0 ?

Like let's say b = 1

then [tex]f'(x) = -(ln(e) \cdot x -1) \cdot e^{-x}= 0 [/tex]

Then [tex] x = \frac{1}{ln(e)} [/tex]

If I then choose an abitratry b which lies in the inteval [tex] [1, \infty[ [/tex]

I get that [tex]x = \frac{b}{ln(e)}[/tex]

is that x then the maximum value for the given function?

Best Regards
Mathboy20

TD said:
If there is a minimum or a maximum, the derivative has to be zero there. Watch out though, a zero derivative doesn't necessarily imply an extremem (min or max) but it is a necessary condition. So find the values of x for which [itex]f'(x)=0[/itex].
 
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Rather then doing it for a particular value of b, do it in general (keep b as a parameter).
You indeed get [itex]x = \frac{b}{\ln(e)}[/itex] but don't you think you could simplify [itex]\ln(e)[/itex] a bit? :wink:
 
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TD said:
Rather then doing it for a particular value of b, do it in general (keep b as a parameter).
You indeed get [itex]x = \frac{b}{\ln(e)}[/itex] but don't you think you could simplify [itex]\ln(e)[/itex] a bit? :wink:


Yeah sure then x = b

Can I then conclude that the parameter 'b' is the maximum value for the function ?

Best Regards

Mathboy20
 
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mathboy20 said:
Yeah sure then x = b

Can I then conclude that the parameter 'b' is the maximum value for the function ?

Best Regards

Mathboy20
Be careful, when b is not 1, then there is one more value that makes f'(x) = 0. That value is x = 0. Do you know why?
To check if it's the maximum or minimum value, one can try to take the second derivative of that function.
If f''(x) > 0, and f'(x) = 0, then it's a minimum value.
If f''(x) < 0, and f'(x) = 0, then it's a maximum value.
Do you know this?
 
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mathboy20 said:
Yeah sure then x = b

Can I then conclude that the parameter 'b' is the maximum value for the function ?
Although it's correct (this will be a maximum), you cannot conclude this from the zero derivative only. In order for that point to be a max (c.q. min), the derivative has to change sign arround that point (from + to - for a max and vice versa for a min).

Alternatively, you could check the sign of the second derivative in that point. If that's negative, you've got a maximum while you'll have a minimum when that's positive.
 
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Hello again,

Lets recap what I know.

I'm given the function [tex]f(x) = x^{a} \cdot e^{-x}[/tex]

where [tex]a \in \mathbb{R}_{+}[/tex] which means that [tex]a > 0[/tex]

Futher I'm told that [tex]x \in [0, \infty[ [/tex]

I required first to prove that there exists a minimum and a maximum value for f, and to determain those values.

What would be the first logical step here?

Sincerely Yours
Mathboy20
 
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First, you should notice that:
f(x) > 0 for all x > 0, and f(x) = 0 for x = 0, right? So what can you say about f(0)? (a maximum value or minimum value?)
And the second hint is to follow TD's suggestion and prove that x = b is a maximum.
Can you go from here? :)
 
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Dear TD,

If I understand Your explanation correctly then I get the following

first my f'(x) was wrong the right one is

f'(x) = (b/x -1) * x^b * e^-x =0

Then according to the definition then there exist a maximum if f''(x) < 0 and f'(x) = 0

first condition:

by choosing x = b

then f'(b) = 0

Second condition:

f''(b) = -b ^ (b-1) * e^-b < 0 because b>0

Then the maximum for f is x = b...

There exist a minimum if f''(x) > 0 and f'(x) = 0

The first point in the definition interval is x = 0, but this is unuserable since b/0 is not allowed.

Then f doesn't have a mimimum?

Sincerley Yours
Mathboy20
 
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f'(x) = bxb - 1e-x - xbe-x
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f''(x) = b(b - 1)xb - 2e-x - bxb - 1e-x - bxb - 1e-x + xbe-x
= e-x(b(b - 1)xb - 2 - 2bxb - 1 + bxb)
f''(b) = be-b(b(b - 1)bb - 2 - 2bbb - 1 + bb) = e-b(-bb - bb - 1 + bb) = -bb - 1e-b < 0.
Yes, so your work is correct.
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However, you should also check the value of f(x) at the end point, too to see if it's a maximum or minimum there. As I told you before:
f(0) = 0
And f(x) > 0 for all x > 0
So f(0) is a minimum value for f(x), since the domain of the function is [tex][0 ; \infty [[/tex]
By the way, f'(x) = bxb - 1e-x - xbe-x = xb - 1e-x(b - x)
So as long as b is not 1, f'(0+) = 0.
 

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