Ethanol Fuel for Indoor Lanterns: Where to Buy?

In summary: Enjoy it!Denatured alcohol is usually 90% ethanol, some percentage of methanol (poisonous) and other stuff. It's what is used for "ethanol" lanterns and camping stoves in the USA.
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i bought an indoor lantern that calls for ethanol as its fuel, however none of my hardware stores seem to carry ethanol (Ace, Truevalue, Home Depot). They do carry regular denatured alcohol in the paint sections. Can I use that or where can I buy canned/bottled (bio)ethanol?
 
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Maybe in the paint section where one finds solvents or paint remover.

http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/ace-denatured-alcohol-prime-grade-ethanol-p-2544.html?ref=42

Model: 11342

Manf#: 11342
UPC#: 082901113423
Manf: KLEAN-STRIP/WM BARR
Keyword: ALCOHOL DENATURED QT ACE

Quantity: 6 Per Unit

Retail Price: $51.36
Regular Price: $46.69 (seems to be for 6 qts)

Description:
ACE DENATURED ALCOHOL
Prime grade ethanol
Used to thin shellac based products only.
A specialty cleaner that will clean painting tools after cleaning shellac.
Will soften dry or hard shellac
Can dissolve most inks, lipsticks, crayons.
The best grade fuel for alcohol chafing dishes and stoves
Dissolves in water

Quart
 
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Rubbing alcohol might do, like the isotropyl which is sold very cheaply in Walgreens. At this moment the only source of viable ethanol I can think of is the liquor store.
 
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Denatured ethanol will be fine.
 
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brewnog said:
Denatured ethanol will be fine.

Yes, I agree.
 
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Greg, the only ethanol you will be able buy legally is denatured alcohol. It is primarily ethanol, but made poisonous with small admixtures of stuff like acetone, aviation gasoline, etc so that you can't drink it. Denatured alcohol will work just fine, because the additives are volatile and flammable.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
i bought an indoor lantern that calls for ethanol as its fuel, however none of my hardware stores seem to carry ethanol (Ace, Truevalue, Home Depot). They do carry regular denatured alcohol in the paint sections. Can I use that or where can I buy canned/bottled (bio)ethanol?
One could probably use Everclear, which can be obtained from some liquor stores, but I believe it's much more expensive than denatured alcohol. I would think the local hardware stores would carry denatured alcohol (ethanol) in their paint departments.
 
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Be careful with that lantern. I remember the alcohol burners from science labs in junior high, and the flame can burn extremely clear so you don't remember it's lit (one of my classmates got a pretty bad burn on her arm when she set herself on fire reaching over one she didn't know was lit). They also are pretty dangerous if you knock one over. It was much better when we graduated to bunsen burners in high school so could just turn off the gas when something went haywire.
 
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Denatured alcohol is usually 90% ethanol, some percentage of methanol (poisonous) and other stuff. It's what is used for "ethanol" lanterns and camping stoves in the USA.

In the USA, Indy Racing League cars and some drag racing cars use E100 ("100%" ethanol, although it sucks moisture from the air, so E100 really ranges from 1% to 4% water). Other than drag racing venues, I'm not sure where you can buy E100 in the USA. It's common in Brazil, where it's made from sugar cane.
 
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I set beakers of ethanol on fire on a regular basis, I even once set a lab-mates notebook on fire in the process :blushing: As Moonbear mentions ethanol burns with a clear flame, but in my experience the candle-like burners have a yellow flame.

Make sure the lantern is safe, that it cannot be knocked over and spill its contents. Also pay attention to the amount of additives in the ethanol you're buying (you may want to ventilate the room).
 
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You girls are so safety conscious.

Greg! Play with your invisible fire! Don't be held back by the spoilsports! Enjoy it!
 
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Jeff Reid said:
Denatured alcohol is usually 90% ethanol, some percentage of methanol (poisonous) and other stuff. It's what is used for "ethanol" lanterns and camping stoves in the USA.

AFAIK, methanol is never used anymore as a denaturing agent due to its toxicity. You add a substance such as denatonium (Bitrex) which will make anything unpalatable even in trace amounts. Sometimes small amounts of propanol and other higher alcohols are also added. But methanol, never. People do try to drink denatured ethanol, and blindness isn't really a proportionate 'punishment'.

The azeotrope is 95% ethanol, so that's where E100 would be at, and the rest water + trace amounts of denaturing agents. The main point is that it does not contain gasoline.
 
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Actually, the contents of denatured alcohol vary with formulation and there are many formulations allowed, based on the intended usage. In our pulp mill's chem lab in the 80's our ethanol was denatured with ethyl acetate, methyl ethyl ketone and aviation gasoline.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_03/27cfr21_03.html
 
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brewnog said:
You girls are so safety conscious.

Greg! Play with your invisible fire! Don't be held back by the spoilsports! Enjoy it!

Wait a second...what good is a lantern that has an invisible fire?
 
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lisab said:
Wait a second...what good is a lantern that has an invisible fire?
I'm assuming that the lantern has a mantle or filament of some kind that is made to glow from the heat of the invisible flame.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
are there any dangerous vapors from burning denatured alcohol?
I can't give you any help on that one, since we never burned our denatured alcohol in the lab, but the admixtures comprise a small percentage of the total volume. What are the recommendations of the lantern's manufacturer. Presumably since they are marketing these items to be used indoors, they must conform to some sort of safety guidelines.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
are there any dangerous vapors from burning denatured alcohol?

Not that I know of. Most versions I see nowadays just have isopropyl alcohol added and a little bit of methanol, just enough to make it undrinkable. The combustion products wouldn't be any problem.
 

1. Where can I purchase ethanol fuel for indoor lanterns?

There are several places where you can purchase ethanol fuel for indoor lanterns, including hardware stores, home improvement stores, camping supply stores, and online retailers. It is important to carefully read the labels and ensure that the fuel is specifically designed for indoor lanterns.

2. Is ethanol fuel safe to use indoors?

When used correctly, ethanol fuel is safe to use indoors. However, it is important to follow all safety instructions and precautions provided by the manufacturer. This includes proper ventilation and keeping the fuel away from any heat sources or open flames.

3. How long does ethanol fuel last?

The burn time of ethanol fuel can vary, but on average it can last for about 2-3 hours. This will also depend on the size and type of lantern being used. It is important to carefully monitor the fuel level and avoid overfilling the lantern.

4. Can I use ethanol fuel in any type of lantern?

No, ethanol fuel is specifically designed for use in indoor lanterns and should not be used in any other type of lantern. It is important to only use the recommended fuel for your specific lantern to ensure safety and proper functioning.

5. How should I store ethanol fuel?

Ethanol fuel should be stored in a cool, dry place and kept away from any sources of heat or open flames. It is also important to keep it out of reach of children and pets. Always follow the manufacturer's instructions for proper storage and disposal of ethanol fuel.

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