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| Feb2-13, 09:44 AM | #35 |
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A falling object problem
I did a simulation with vx and it matched the sinusoidal, it seems. Any help from the experts?
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| Feb14-13, 08:56 AM | #36 |
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Where do you consider the motion along the bowl? It will lead to accelerations both in vx and vy, to follow the shape.
I'll try to start from scratch - with energy conservation, but it is possible to avoid this word if necessary. If the object is at rest at position ##x_0>0##, it has a total energy of ##gx_0^2##, setting its mass and a meter to 1. At position x, ##0<x<x_0##, energy conservation leads to ##v^2=2g(x_0^2-x^2)##. The derivative of the parabola there is 2x, therefore ##v_x=\frac{1}{2x}v_y##. It follows that ##v^2 = v_x^2 + v_y^2 = v_x^2 (1+4x^2)##. Combining both, $$\frac{dx}{dt}= v_x = \sqrt{\frac{v^2}{1+4x^2}} = \sqrt{\frac{2g(x_0^2-x^2)}{1+4x^2}}$$ The sign is arbitrary and depends on the current part of the oscillation. This leads to ugly elliptic integrals. It can be written as $$\frac{dt}{dx}=\sqrt{\frac{1+4x^2}{2g(x_0^2-x^2)}}$$ While this gives elliptic integrals as well, it allows to determine t(x) via numerical integration. g=10 and x0=1 leads to a period of T=2.36s. For large x0 (>>1), most of the parabola is like a free fall, and the period should approach 4 times this free-fall time. As an example, x=sqrt(500) leads to T=40.06, whereas a free fall would give T=40s. For small x0 (<<1), the deflection of the bowl is negligible, and we get a harmonic oscillator. The numerator for dt/dx can be approximated as 1, and the period approaches ##T \approx \frac{2\pi}{\sqrt{2g}}##. |
| Feb14-13, 09:02 AM | #37 |
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Thank you! At last :D
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