Beer vs. Soda: Which is Worse for Your Health?

[lisab]

Question for all you beerios...why does the last bit of beer in a bottle taste so different than the first? Yes, the temp is certainly different - it's warmer, sometimes a lot warmer (I don't drink beer quickly). But is that the only factor? Does commercially produced beer have sediment at the bottom of the bottle which makes it taste more bitter?

 

[dlgoff]

That's why I chug Lisa.

 

[Moonbear]

Some microbrews have sediment at the bottom. One I know definitely has sediment are Bell's beers, and they are best served in a glass. Otherwise, I think it is just that it gets warmer, and maybe a bit flatter if you're nursing it slowly. Otherwise, maybe it's backwash. :yuck:

 

[Cyrus]

Question for all you beerios...why does the last bit of beer in a bottle taste so different than the first? Yes, the temp is certainly different - it's warmer, sometimes a lot warmer (I don't drink beer quickly). But is that the only factor? Does commercially produced beer have sediment at the bottom of the bottle which makes it taste more bitter?

I've really noticed that with something like a Yuengling. I wouldn't attribute it to stuff settling at the bottom becuase it happened when I got it on tap. So, I would expect it to be either all fine, or all really bitter because either you get the start of a fresh keg and its fine, or the end of a keg and it would be all from the bottom (if that makes sense). I really think its the temperature, and it depends on the beer.

Budweiser, for example, won't do that to you. It's the darker red beers/guiness that really change a lot near the bottom. Also, beers can be filtered or unfiltered. You probably drink unfiltered beer, so there should be no sediments. I like unfiltered Hefeweizens. If you can find a bottle of the one I posted at the very bottom, try it. You would like any of the beers listed here if you don't want that strong bitter taste.


Oh, yesterday I kinda had three beers ()

One was a modelo especial (mexican). Its a lager similar to a budweiser, and pretty good.

http://www.neonsign.com/eng_lightedsigns/images/modelo3dcansign.jpg

The next was a rolling rock, which was again quite good and close to the modelo in taste

http://ceoworld.biz/ceo/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/rolling-rock-beer.jpg

The last one was a Michelob Ultra Light, which was really light and drank like water. I two two sips and it was all gone.

As far as light beers go, it was pretty good and similar to an amstel light.

Tonight I'm having a repeat of my favorite beer: franziskaner beer

http://thebeerlist.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/franziskaner-hefe-weisse-poured-200x300.jpg

Oh, this ones so good.

 

[Cyrus]

The same is true for soda. Ever noticed how a warm soda tastes wayyyyyyyyyy more sugary than an ice cold soda?

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

One was a modelo especial (mexican). Its a lager similar to a budweiser, and pretty good.

I get the Nagra Modelo when I go to mexican food places. It's a lot like Newcastle.

 

[Cyrus]

I get the Nagra Modelo when I go to mexican food places. It's a lot like Newcastle.

Newcastle is too bitter for my taste.

 

[lisab]

The same is true for soda. Ever noticed how a warm soda tastes wayyyyyyyyyy more sugary than an ice cold soda?

Hmmm...I don't drink sodas but once in a blue moon but yes, you're right.

Come to think of it, temperature affects the taste of milk too...I like mine almost room temperature...makes the cream taste stand out.

 

[Red Rum]

Question for all you beerios...why does the last bit of beer in a bottle taste so different than the first? Yes, the temp is certainly different - it's warmer, sometimes a lot warmer (I don't drink beer quickly). But is that the only factor? Does commercially produced beer have sediment at the bottom of the bottle which makes it taste more bitter?

The commercially produced beers are the ones that usually don't have sediment, unless they're unfiltered white beers or have had some yeast added back into the bottle during filling or secondary fermentation. Temperature has a major impact on beer taste. Most US beers are drunk ice cold because I guess the beers are really bland or the people who drink them don't really like the flavour anyway. (Apologies in advance to all true American beer lovers... but if we didn't have such drinkers who else would drink most commercial US brands?). As well as getting warmer, the CO2 is lost from solution. The beer may also taste more bitter if it collects some of the foam that was deposited earlier on the side of the bottle or glass, or some of this foam (which has a lot of the bitter compounds) has collapsed into the bottle. Exposure to oxygen can cause a sort of aging or oxidation (this will happen anyway as the beer ages, but the more carefully the beer was handled during processing, and the better oxygen was excluded, the better the beer will age. Really old beers tend to taste of cherry or old tea. Don't drink this stuff. And of course, exposure to UV light will cause the phenomenon known as lightstruck, or what most Americans call skunky. The darker the beer, the more this is masked. The hoppier the beer, the more it is prone to this off flavour. So light, hoppy beers are very prone to lightstruck. I wouldn't drink them out of doors on a sunny day. You can actually taste the skunky/burnt rubber flavour developing in the first 5-10 minutes of drinking if you drink from a clear glass outdoors. White and lambic beers tend not to get either lightstruck or oxidised.

 

[lisab]

Thanks, RR!

I had a feeling you'd know the answer .

 

[Cyrus]

Today was a Bayerischer Bahnhof Berliner Weisse.


http://beerovision.wnymedia.net/blogs/files/2007/07/bayerischer.jpg

It had a very very strong lemon taste. It was unfiltered, but too much like lemon.


Last week I had a Bass beer, and I didn't like it's strong bitter taste one bit.

http://bertsbeerblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/bass.jpg

 

[Moonbear]

So, I'm getting the general impression that Cyrus would not like the beers usually stocked in my fridge. I usually like the more bitter beers. Though, had a yearning for something lighter this weekend, and currently have Widmer's Hefeweizen. I'm underwhelmed. It was okay with the grilled cornish hen I made this weekend, but I had one tonight after work, and meh, I prefer something I can chew. :tongue2:

 

[Cyrus]

I had a second beer since the first one was so small (it was like 10 oz!).

http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/images/Ayinger_Ur_Weisse_1.jpg

I had the normal hefeweizen a few weeks ago, but this one is the dunkel weizen. Overall, not bad. A sweet afteratste similar to a skullsplitter, but an initial taste similar to that of their hefewizen.

 

[dlgoff]

I had a second beer since the first one was so small (it was like 10 oz!).

Maybe it was because it only had 3% Alc./vol. Doesn't sound manly to me. Doesn't the buzz matter?:uhh:

 

[Cyrus]

Maybe it was because it only had 3% Alc./vol. Doesn't sound manly to me. Doesn't the buzz matter?:uhh:

Haha, I didn't even realize that. It def had 99.9% lemon by volume.

 

[Cyrus]

My mother braught a bottle of Veglio moscato d'Asti (dessert wine) for my grandfather.


http://194.145.144.50/myEuropages-web/GalleryDocSnapshot?galleryId=104525

I took a small taste of it in a cup. It's very sweet, and similar to a Martini Rossi Asti, but a sweeter finish. I've been quite the drinker today.

 

[jtbell]

Speaking of beer, I found out tonight from watching the "Jeopardy!" TV quiz show that in Wisconsin, they call beer "bratwash." A Google search led me to this site:

http://www.bratwurstpages.com/beer.html

Gee, I wish I'd grown up in Wisconsin instead of Ohio! :!)

 

[Cyrus]

A few days ago I had the Ayinger Jahrhundert-beir (100 years). It was a lager, and quite good. Similar to a Taj Mahal beer.

http://bengaliboypaul.com/images/PicsOH/Ayinger-Jahr100.jpg

 

[Cyrus]

I been slacking on posting

http://www.bunitedint.com/portfolios/producers/bfm/meule/_images/meule-bottle.jpg

This is a swiss unfiltered golden ale with herb sage. It was ok, tasted a bit like a hefewiezen with a strong aftertaste. For the taste, I wouldn't spend the money on another bottle (upwards of 9 bucks for one bottle, yikes).

Another one I had was a Julius Echter Hefe-weiss (german import) it was pretty good, but I prefer the Ayinger Hefewiezen taste wise.

Oh, the foam. This one made lots of foam and took FOREVER to settle back down.

 

[dlgoff]

There's something to having a nice head. If you have a mustache you'll understand.

 

[Moonbear]

That foam looks really nice.

I don't think I'd buy a bottle of beer for $9 though. Maybe to include as a gift for someone who really likes beer, but not for myself.

 

[Cyrus]

That foam looks really nice.

I don't think I'd buy a bottle of beer for $9 though. Maybe to include as a gift for someone who really likes beer, but not for myself.

It's only once, and it was to try something new in life. Most bottles run around $5.00 that I've posted.

I want to have tasted and tried lots of things before I'm dead. My body will make better mulch that way.

 

[Cyrus]

The day before yesterday I had a Budweiser American Ale, and I hated it so much I poured it down the sink. I didn't like it because it was an Ale and I can't stand the taste of Ales

I also (yesterday) had a Baltika 8 wheat ale from Russia. Verrrryy good.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

I had a second beer since the first one was so small (it was like 10 oz!).

http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/images/Ayinger_Ur_Weisse_1.jpg

I had the normal hefeweizen a few weeks ago, but this one is the dunkel weizen. Overall, not bad. A sweet afteratste similar to a skullsplitter, but an initial taste similar to that of their hefewizen.

Ayinger is a personal favorite of mine!

The Belgium classics of Chimay, Duvel and Delirium are great for getting a quick buzz.

 

[Cyrus]

Todays beer was from Russia again, Жигулёвское Zhiguljovskoje made by Baltika. It's a Lager beer and I found it to be good! (But Beer Advocate really flunked it! http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/401/31518)

http://www.beerme.com/graphics/brewery/0/194/22206.jpg

 

[Redbelly98]

I don't think I'd buy a bottle of beer for $9 though. Maybe to include as a gift for someone who really likes beer, but not for myself.

Pssst, MB, I really like beer . . .

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

The day before yesterday I had a Budweiser American Ale, and I hated it so much I poured it down the sink. I didn't like it because it was an Ale and I can't stand the taste of Ales

Why the hell would you drink anything with the brand name Budweiser on it anyway? Thats some redneck beer.

 

[Moonbear]

Was NASCAR on? Cyrus turns into a redneck for NASCAR.

 

[Cyrus]

Who doesn't like cars that go 180MPH making lots of noise? Who doesn't like Budweiser? I like Budweiser. I think its a great beer!

 

[Red Rum]

Budweiser beer. For God's sake it's an oxymoron. I quaffed three glasses of Kwak last night. It was great and I have no idea why I didn't get home til 5 a .m. Well, perhaps the Kwak was a clue.

 

[Red Rum]

This might help
http://www.studiokoning.nl/Kwak.htm

 

[Civilized]

Right now I'm having a hoegaarden:

http://blog.winemag.com/editors/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/hoegaarden.jpg

It's a great wheat beer, but what makes it even better is that I have the glass shown in the picture, which makes for an at home experience that is even closer to what I get at a nice pub. I finally realized the importance of having an appropriate glass/mug for all these diferent types of beer, I have collected about 10 distinct beer vessels!

 

[Cyrus]

Right now I'm having a hoegaarden:

http://blog.winemag.com/editors/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/hoegaarden.jpg

It's a great wheat beer, but what makes it even better is that I have the glass shown in the picture, which makes for an at home experience that is even closer to what I get at a nice pub. I finally realized the importance of having an appropriate glass/mug for all these diferent types of beer, I have collected about 10 distinct beer vessels!

I personally think its, ok. But I'd tell you to try the Baltika 8 wheat beer. Personally, I like it a lot better. Then again, I have a very particular tasting beer I like. However, the Hoegaarden is absolutely better than a blue moon, IMO.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

I am currently drinking Vitali vodka mixed with ruby red grapefruit juice.
I can not find a picture of the bottle online for some reason.

It is of a variety that anyone but the most ardent of brownbag vodka drinkers should drink with a mixer. You should be able to find it at your local grocery store though they may have accidentally stowed it with the floor cleaners.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

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