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Yeah, I just wanted to check with you guys-
Have ANY of you come up with your own solutions to Schrodinger's cat?
-Sam
Have ANY of you come up with your own solutions to Schrodinger's cat?
-Sam
SeManTics said:Yeah, I just wanted to check with you guys-
Have ANY of you come up with your own solutions to Schrodinger's cat?
-Sam
SeManTics said:The idea is, in particular, that there is a cat in a box. In that box is toxic material, and some stuff that could set off that material. Thing is, the box is closed, so we don't know if the toxic stuff was unleashed and killed the cat, or if the cat is still toxin-free and alive. And, as Gonzy put it, the cat exists in two states until we peek inside the box. For years, people have been trying to find an exception to prove the cat exists in only one of those two states, but so far all have failed. :grumpy: :uhh:
marlon said:Once we perform a measurement on the cat (we open the box and look at it), the superposition of the cat's wavefunction is broken. This means that decoherence has taken place and entanglement between the cat and our possible measurement outcomes has occurred : we see the cat as either living or that once the box is openend. Prior to that we don't know sqaud besides that the cat-wavefunction is a superposition of living and dead each with chance a half, in order to have a normalized wavefunction...
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marlon
SeManTics said:The idea is, in particular, that there is a cat in a box. In that box is toxic material, and some stuff that could set off that material. Thing is, the box is closed, so we don't know if the toxic stuff was unleashed and killed the cat, or if the cat is still toxin-free and alive. And, as Gonzy put it, the cat exists in two states until we peek inside the box. For years, people have been trying to find an exception to prove the cat exists in only one of those two states, but so far all have failed. :grumpy: :uhh:
reilly said:This knowledge based approach, that |PSI|*|PSI| represents a normal probability density which reflects the state of our knowledge.
reilly said:First of all, the issue of the well being of Schrodinger's cat has nothing to do with quantum phenomena; it's simply an issue of probability. One can use any number of different classically based processes to trigger the deadly gas. For example, build a machine to flip a coin, and use a neural network or other detector to note heads or tails, and track the total heads. If the number of heads equals some N, then bye-bye cat.
So, what's the problem with noting that the state of the cat is either alive or dead, but not both. We're talking normal reality, not paranormal communication with the dead or quasi-dead, cats or people, or whatever. However, the state of our knowledge of the cat is indeed uncertain; our brain allows as how the cat could be dead, could be alive, who knows - that's the sort of thing brains do. When we find out the truth, then our uncertain neural pattern collapse to the pattern corresponding to alive/dead. It's our knowledge that changes.
SeManTics said:I think the fact that a cat is present in Schrodinger's Wavefunction problem IS significant. See, I'm up here in Canada, and my cousins have two cats. One of these cats meows CONSTANTLY. This tells me, apart from the fact that the cat has an annoying personality, that the cat - like a baby - WANTS. That it the slightest hint of consciousness. I think what Schrodinger's trying to say is: 'What if a being or lifeform with CONSCIOUSNESS is in that box. Would it make a difference if that was the case instead of, say, a twig?' Because the conscious lifeform would KNOW if it was alive.
Schrodinger's Cat solution is a thought experiment proposed by physicist Erwin Schrodinger to illustrate the paradox of quantum mechanics. It involves a cat that is both alive and dead at the same time, until an observer opens the box.
Schrodinger's Cat solution highlights the concept of superposition, where a physical system can exist in multiple states simultaneously. It also raises questions about the role of observation and measurement in quantum mechanics.
No, Schrodinger's Cat solution is a thought experiment and has not been conducted in real life. It is used to explain complex quantum concepts and does not represent an actual physical situation.
While the thought experiment involves a cat, the principles of Schrodinger's Cat solution can be applied to any object, regardless of its size. However, the effects of superposition are usually only observable at the quantum level.
Schrodinger's Cat solution is still a topic of debate and has not been fully resolved. Many physicists believe that the paradox can be resolved by understanding the role of observation and measurement in quantum mechanics, while others argue that it highlights the limitations of our current understanding of the universe.