Constraint Equations: Atwoods Machine

In summary, the conversation is about a reference frame for solving a question involving a horizontal pulley system. The speaker suggests using a reference point in the middle of the string instead of the fixed pulley. There is confusion about the negative acceleration and the speaker asks for clarification about the use of the middle of the string as a reference frame. The other speaker asks about the properties of the pulleys and the ropes in the system. The original question is about the negative sign in the equation vB=−đxB đt.
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Can questions like the one given in the following pic be solved by taking the reference frame answhere in the middle of the string and not on the fixed pulley?(http://cnx.org/content/m14731/latest/pq8.gif)

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A somewhat similar method has been given in http://cnx.org/content/m14783/latest/" ( Search for Horizontal pulley system ) I'm unable to comprehend the following line:

"There is an important subtle point here. The positions of blocks are on either side of the reference point (not on the same side as usually is the case). If positive direction of reference x-direction is towards right as shown in the figure, then velocities of two blocks are : "

Why does acceleration get -ve? pl help.
 
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I don't understand what you are meaning. Why should you make a reference frame with respect to "a middle of (some) string"??
Choice of reference frame is an arbitrary matter, but I don't see why it would help you to choose some middle of some string.

By the way, are your pulleys massless?
Do the ropes pass without friction over the pulleys, or do the pulleys rotate, with the strings not moving relative to the pulleys?
 
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Yes the pulleys are massless, frictionless with the strings being inextinsible.

My basic question is the one given in http://cnx.org/content/m14783/latest/ ( Search for Horizontal pulley system ) wherein vB=−đxB đt . I can't understand the -ve sign.
 

What is a "Constraint Equation"?

A constraint equation is a mathematical equation that describes a relationship between the motion of two or more objects. In the case of Atwoods Machine, the constraint equation describes the motion of the two masses connected by a pulley.

How do you solve for the motion in an Atwoods Machine?

To solve for the motion in an Atwoods Machine, you first need to identify all the forces acting on the masses and use Newton's second law to write down the equations of motion. Then, you can use the constraint equation to eliminate one of the variables and solve the remaining equations.

What is the role of tension in an Atwoods Machine?

Tension is a force that is transmitted through a string or rope. In an Atwoods Machine, tension is the force that causes the masses to move and is equal in magnitude on both sides of the pulley. Without tension, the masses would not be able to move.

Are there any assumptions made when using constraint equations in an Atwoods Machine?

Yes, there are a few assumptions that are made when using constraint equations in an Atwoods Machine. These include assuming that the string or rope is massless and inextensible, and that there is no friction between the pulley and the string.

Can constraint equations be applied to other systems besides Atwoods Machines?

Yes, constraint equations can be applied to a variety of systems, such as pendulums, pulleys, and even more complex systems like robots. The key is to identify the constraints and use them to simplify the equations of motion for the system.

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