Gas liquefaction through compression

In summary, the conversation discusses a thought experiment involving filling a tank with a gaseous substance that can condense into a liquid. It is theorized that the maximum pressure of the tank is equal to the saturation pressure of the substance at a given temperature, and the maximum mass that can be pumped into the tank is equal to the mass that fills the constant volume of the tank at the liquid density of the substance, assuming constant temperature. It is questioned if the pressure inside the tank can ever be higher than the saturation pressure or if it effectively plateaus until all gas has become liquid. The expert summarizer suggests that the pressure will plateau at the saturation pressure and the tank will be filled with liquid.
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This is more a thought experiment that I'm not completely sure I'm getting correctly... So here we go:

Imagine we have a tank that we are filling up with a substance in gaseous form. Imagine also that we have a good pump that will allow us to fill this tank with this gas up to very high pressures, and that the tank will not collapse or burst or leak. The tank starts empty and its pressure increases as gas comes in. There comes a point in which the pressure inside the tank reaches the saturation pressure of the substance at whatever temperature the system is in. Upon reaching Psat, some of the gas will condense into a liquid and the pressure inside the tank will fall. While this happens, more gas is still being pumped into the tank, so the tank pressure is brought up to Psat again and more gas condenses into liquid. The filling process continues, and suddenly there is more liquid than gas inside the tank. The tank pressure during the phase change process is Psat, even though more mass is coming in. Theoretically, the maximum pressure of the tank is Psat, and the maximum mass that can be pumped into it is equal to the mass that fills the constant volume of the tank at the liquid density of the substance (assuming an incompressible liquid.)

Is this thought process correct? Specifically, can the pressure inside the tank ever be any higher than Psat or does it effectively plateau until all gas has become liquid?

Thank you for your help
 
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henrymanu2005 said:
Upon reaching Psat, some of the gas will condense into a liquid and the pressure inside the tank will fall. While this happens, more gas is still being pumped into the tank, so the tank pressure is brought up to Psat again and more gas condenses into liquid.
This part is not correct. As the liquid forms, the density increases (as the liquid is more dense), but the pressure never falls. It stays at Psat. New gas comes in because the liquid takes less volume.

henrymanu2005 said:
Theoretically, the maximum pressure of the tank is Psat, and the maximum mass that can be pumped into it is equal to the mass that fills the constant volume of the tank at the liquid density of the substance (assuming an incompressible liquid.)
That sounds ok, provided that the temperature is maintained constant during the entire process.

henrymanu2005 said:
Is this thought process correct? Specifically, can the pressure inside the tank ever be any higher than Psat or does it effectively plateau until all gas has become liquid?
I've never worked with gases like that, so someone with practicle experience may prove me wrong. But from a theoretical, thermodynamics point of view, P plateaus at Psat and everything stops when the tank is filled with liquid.
 

1. What is gas liquefaction through compression?

Gas liquefaction through compression is a process that involves compressing a gas, such as natural gas or air, to a high pressure and then cooling it to a temperature where it transitions from a gas to a liquid state. This process is used to convert gases into a more compact and transportable form for storage and transportation.

2. How does gas liquefaction through compression work?

The process of gas liquefaction through compression involves three main stages: compression, cooling, and separation. First, the gas is compressed using a compressor, which increases its pressure and temperature. Then, the compressed gas is cooled using a heat exchanger, bringing it to a temperature below its boiling point. Finally, the cooled gas is separated into liquid and gas phases, with the liquid being collected for storage or transportation.

3. What are the benefits of gas liquefaction through compression?

Gas liquefaction through compression offers several benefits, including increased energy density, easier storage and transportation, and reduced environmental impact. By converting gas into liquid form, it takes up less space and can be transported more efficiently. Additionally, liquefied gas can be stored for longer periods of time without losing its properties, making it a more reliable energy source.

4. What types of gases can be liquefied through compression?

Most gases can be liquefied through compression, but the most commonly liquefied gases include natural gas, air, oxygen, nitrogen, and hydrogen. These gases are typically used in industries such as energy production, transportation, and healthcare, and can be converted into liquid form for easier storage and transportation.

5. What are the challenges of gas liquefaction through compression?

One of the main challenges of gas liquefaction through compression is the high energy requirements and costs associated with the process. The compression and cooling stages require a significant amount of energy, which can make the process expensive. Additionally, the equipment used for gas liquefaction must be able to withstand high pressures and temperatures, which can also add to the overall cost.

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