Money or Meaning: Which Path Should I Choose After College?

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In summary, the conversation is about a college student who is excelling in an applied math and economics double major. They are contemplating whether to prioritize money or enjoyment in their career. They are considering becoming an actuary, which offers good job prospects, but they also have a strong desire to pursue academic and meaningful endeavors. They seek advice from others on how to balance these aspirations. Some suggest finding a job that allows for both, while others suggest pursuing one path and reevaluating later on. The student also expresses concern about supporting their family, but some commenters suggest focusing on their own dreams and not feeling obligated to financially support their family.
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hey guys. i am currently a college student, and i am doing very well in my applied math and eco double major.

anyway, over the last few weeks, i have been pondering a lot of aspects of my life. and one of the issues that came up was, do i go for money or enjoyment?

i am studying applied math, pure math and economics. i plan on taking the actuarial exams (which look very tame to me at this point). obviously, taking a job as an actuary after passing the first few exams is almost guranteed. i have good computer skills (access, excel, Java, etc) and i know most of the material up to exam #4 for SOA/CAS.

the problem is, my family is not necessarily rich. we are pretty poor. but i don't want to spend the rest of my life being an actuary. i want to be a scholar, i want to do a lot of things with my life. after i graduate i am planning on pursuing the Peace Corps for 2 years. i want to do meaningful things in my life. i don't want to spend it crunching numbers for some huge insurance company. i want to collaborate, i want to write proofs, i want to discover the secrets of this existence. i want to immerse myself in everything this world has to offer.

any advice from you guys?
 
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Do what will make you happy.

I know what you mean, though. My family isn't rich, and I wish I could give them some money, somehow. Maybe by joining the military and sending money, or going as a 4 year engineer and giving money. But I have decided to go into physics, and probably get a Ph.D. That means I'll have to leech even more money off of them. Not for school, but just for living with them. I feel really bad for doing this...

I mean, for me, all I need is food, a place to sleep, some money for training (weight lifting, martial arts, etc, I love it all), and that's it. I don't care if I'm poor, I just want to, like you said, "discover the secrets of existence". But my family needs money, so I still feel bad... :(

PL
 
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Sounds like you need a way to get rich quick. :devil: Heh, totally joking.

I predict that you will either decide one is more important and do it, or you will find a way to do both. :biggrin: I think you should first try to find a way to do both. If you can't find a job doing what you love and making enough money, you can always do what a lot of other people do: Find a job to make money and do what you love on your own time.
 
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Become an engineer temporailly, send loads of monehy back to your parents. Theng o back to school and do yoru thing. If you don't compensate your parents now it's unlikely they'll ever get a return on their investment.
 
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Seriously, i would ask myself this. What the point of money if your not going to rule the world with it?
 
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Do what makes you happy, and if you can make a pretty penny while doing it, that is even better.
 
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ktpr2 said:
Become an engineer temporailly, send loads of monehy back to your parents. Theng o back to school and do yoru thing. If you don't compensate your parents now it's unlikely they'll ever get a return on their investment.

Umm... more of "accident" than invenstment in my case.

But also, if I stop going to school and get a job, I'll likely never get around to going back. =/

PL
 
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Go to the Corps, come back, re-evaluate. Perhaps look for an RA type position for a few years; work with math and/or econ Ph.D.s who are making some money; then re-evaluate again. Best of luck.

JasonJo said:
hey guys. i am currently a college student, and i am doing very well in my applied math and eco double major.

anyway, over the last few weeks, i have been pondering a lot of aspects of my life. and one of the issues that came up was, do i go for money or enjoyment?

i am studying applied math, pure math and economics. i plan on taking the actuarial exams (which look very tame to me at this point). obviously, taking a job as an actuary after passing the first few exams is almost guranteed. i have good computer skills (access, excel, Java, etc) and i know most of the material up to exam #4 for SOA/CAS.

the problem is, my family is not necessarily rich. we are pretty poor. but i don't want to spend the rest of my life being an actuary. i want to be a scholar, i want to do a lot of things with my life. after i graduate i am planning on pursuing the Peace Corps for 2 years. i want to do meaningful things in my life. i don't want to spend it crunching numbers for some huge insurance company. i want to collaborate, i want to write proofs, i want to discover the secrets of this existence. i want to immerse myself in everything this world has to offer.

any advice from you guys?
 
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spend a couple of years doing actuary to make money...whilst doing the peace corps and other things ont eh side...unless you want a social life. Then when say like 5-10 years down the road pursue a more academic career.
 
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some parents may feel differently, or be in a very different situation, but i personally do not expect my children to support me. i educated my children so that they could find their own dreams, not so they could send weekly checks back to me. if they make more money than me, or less, but are doing what they want to do, i feel very happy for them, and feel proud for the start my wife and i gave them. we consider it our job to support ourselves, and feel that our kids will have their hands full supporting themselves and their own families.

in particular we never expect them to "pay back" any of the tuition money we spent on them.

your parents may well feel the same. i.e. they may not care for you to factor in their income into your career plans. probably they are pretty happy in life, even if you think they are "poor", and feel very proud to have given you an education and a start in life.

you might ask them.
 
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well i technically don't owe my parents any money. i go to school for free.

but they aren't rich at all. my dad might have to file for bankruptcy. i would like to be able to take care of them and give them some luxuries in life before they pass away.
 
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wonderful thought. remember, to see your children better off than you were and happy is also a luxury for a parent.
 
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Why don't you get a job as an actuary and study mathematics on the side? Since you'll have a math degree, you could possibly obtain a graduate degree over a few years while you are working. In addition to that, you could also work on teaching yourself some new topics. You can begin writing proofs, etc on your own time. I say the first thing you should do is make sure you are financially stable.
 
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mattmns said:
Do what makes you happy, and if you can make a pretty penny while doing it, that is even better.
That's of course the ideal. In the long term, if you do what makes you happy, you'll be more motivated and more successful and therefore earn more money doing it. If you do something you don't enjoy just for the money, although it will look good at the beginning, you likely won't be as motivated to keep up a strong effort long-term, and may not advance as rapidly. What's the point of making lots of money if you hate having to get up every morning and drag yourself to a job you can't stand?
 
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If you eventually are dead set on doing research I would say just keep going to school. Many many people say they will go back to school after graduating and working for a few years but it never really happens (there is always exceptions of course). They get too tied up with their jobs, get married, and start a family. Once you stop going to school it becomes a lot harder to go back.
 

1. What is the difference between money and actual meaning?

Money refers to the physical currency or financial resources that we use to buy goods and services. Actual meaning, on the other hand, is the significance or value that we attach to things in our lives. While money can provide us with material possessions and temporary happiness, actual meaning is derived from our relationships, personal growth, and sense of purpose.

2. Can money and actual meaning coexist?

Yes, money and actual meaning can coexist. While money can provide us with resources to pursue our passions and fulfill our needs, actual meaning comes from the way we use and allocate those resources. It is possible to find balance and fulfillment in both aspects of life.

3. Does having more money equate to more actual meaning?

Not necessarily. While having financial stability can certainly contribute to our overall well-being, it does not guarantee a sense of purpose or fulfillment. Actual meaning is derived from our experiences, relationships, and personal growth rather than the amount of money we have.

4. Can actual meaning be achieved without money?

Yes, actual meaning can be achieved without money. While money can provide resources to help us pursue our goals and passions, it is not the only factor that contributes to our sense of purpose and fulfillment. People can find meaning in their relationships, hobbies, and personal growth without relying on financial resources.

5. How can we find a balance between money and actual meaning?

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