Counting Counter Quotes: Reasonable vs Unreasonable & Confucianism

CQ: Happiness is only real when shared. - Christopher McCandlessIn summary, the conversation discusses the idea of counter quotes, where a quote is countered with another quote that presents an opposing viewpoint. The conversation also suggests turning this into a game. Some examples of counter quotes include "Nice guys finish last," "The weed that stands out is the one that gets knocked down first," and "Silence is golden." The conversation also touches on the creation of new proverbs and the idea that some proverbs have no opposite.
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Ivan Seeking
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I thought it might be interesting to see how many counter quotes can be found to respond to a given quote.

For example, one that hit me some time ago was that of reasonable people.

Quote: "The reasonable man adapts to the world around him, while the unreasonable person tries to change the world to suit him. Conclusion: Change only occurs because of unreasonable people."

As a counter quote: The Chinese have a saying that goes something like, "the weed that stands out the most is the one that gets knocked down first"

or

Q: "To be able to practice five things everywhere under heaven constitutes perfect virtue. . . . [They are] gravity, generosity of soul, sincerity, earnestness, and kindness."-- The Confucian Analects, bk. 17:6

CQ: Nice guys finish last.
 
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  • #2
In fact, why not make it a game like What was it - provide a counter quote and then a quote for the next person.

Q:Seize the day, put no trust in the morrow! -- Horace [Quintus Horatius Flaccus] 65 – 8 B.C. Odes, bk. I [23 B.C.], ode xi, last line
 
  • #3
Old wise man once say every proverb has an opposite, even this one!
 
  • #4
There is but one truth
 
  • #5
the sqeeky wheel gets the grease

can't think of anything to counter that?
 
  • #6
light_bulb said:
the sqeeky wheel gets the grease

can't think of anything to counter that?

Silence is golden.
 
  • #7
speak now or forever hold your peace.
 
  • #8
An inability to stay quiet is one of the most conspicuous failings of mankind. ~Walter Bagehot
 
  • #9
Actions speak louder than words.
 
  • #10
The pen is mightier than the sword.
 
  • #11
Two heads are better than one, and, indeed, many hands make light work, but only so long as it's not a case of too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, because too many cooks spoil the broth.
 
  • #12
aah that one's hard... all I can think of is:

"The more the merrier—ALWAYS!"

... but I kind of cheated...

here's mine:

"This proverb has no opposite." --- muahaha there's no way out of that one!
 
  • #13
moe darklight said:
"This proverb has no opposite." --- muahaha there's no way out of that one!
Yeah there is: it's not a real proverb. You just invented it.
 
  • #14
zoobyshoe said:
Two heads are better than one, and, indeed, many hands make light work, but only so long as it's not a case of too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, because too many cooks spoil the broth.

One shouldn't bother with broth anyway, as an apple a day is much better at keeping the doctor away.
 
  • #15
zoobyshoe said:
Yeah there is: it's not a real proverb. You just invented it.

Well someone has to. All the proverbs are so old, nobody's making new proverbs now a days. I say you don't have to be ancient and chinese or greek to write a proverb! and I think that's a good candidate for being a proverb!
 
  • #16
franznietzsche said:
Actions speak louder than words.

say what you mean and mean what you say
 
  • #17
light_bulb said:
the sqeeky wheel gets the grease

can't think of anything to counter that?
There is an opposing Japanese proverb "The nail that sticks up gets hammered down."
 
  • #18
jimmysnyder said:
There is an opposing Japanese proverb "The nail that sticks up gets hammered down."

Two nails in the hand are worth one in the board.
 
  • #19
Of what use is it that the cow gives plenty of milk, if she upset the pail.
 
  • #20
Try counter quoting this one :

Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.
- Albert Einstein (Don't know if he really said it)
 
  • #21
franznietzsche said:
Two nails in the hand are worth one in the board.
Measure twice, chop once.
 
  • #22
Two wrongs don't make a right (but three lefts do.)
 
  • #23
dontdisturbmycircles said:
Try counter quoting this one :

Try not to become a man of success but rather to become a man of value.
- Albert Einstein (Don't know if he really said it)
Virtue can hurt you.
 
  • #24
jimmysnyder said:
Measure twice, chop once.

That's a good one.
 
  • #25
zoobyshoe said:
Two heads are better than one, and, indeed, many hands make light work, but only so long as it's not a case of too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, because too many cooks spoil the broth.

moe darklight said:
aah that one's hard... all I can think of is:

"The more the merrier—ALWAYS!"

... but I kind of cheated...

here's mine:

"This proverb has no opposite." --- muahaha there's no way out of that one!

zoobyshoe said:
Yeah there is: it's not a real proverb. You just invented it.

That's the pot calling the kettle black.
 
  • #26
BobG said:
That's the pot calling the kettle black.
Birds of a feather flock together.
 
  • #27
BobG said:
That's the pot calling the kettle black.

lol you said what I wanted to say but didn't have a proverb for it!

I would have made one up but... :biggrin:

altho he didn't really make one up as much as created a proverb remix :rofl: .
 
  • #28
Together we stand, divided we fall.
 
  • #29
hypatia said:
Together we stand, divided we fall.

You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose, no matter how close you are.
 
  • #30
he who laughs last laughs best.
 
  • #31
Try this one:

"You can't have your cake, and eat it too"

as a kid that one drove me nuts, I'm Like, what the heck are you supposed to do with it then!? heh
 
  • #32
Ivan Seeking said:
"The reasonable man adapts to the world around him, while the unreasonable person tries to change the world to suit him. Conclusion: Change only occurs because of unreasonable people."
Wow! That 1 is great!:smile:




light_bulb said:
he who laughs last laughs best.

He who laughs last thinks slowest!:redface:
 
  • #33
hypatia said:
Together we stand, divided we fall.

CQ:Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely or to think sanely under the influence of a great fear.”
or
No crowd ever waited at the gates of patience.

Q: Only the tent pitched by your own hands will stand.
 
  • #34
Ivan Seeking said:
Q: Only the tent pitched by your own hands will stand.

CQ: Many hands make light work.

Q: Happiness depends upon ourselves. - Aristotle
 
  • #35
Type 7 said:
CQ: Many hands make light work.

Q: Happiness depends upon ourselves. - Aristotle

cq: no man is an island

q: The direction in which education starts a man will determine his future life. The Republic, bk. IV, 425 – B
 

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