How can we solve the Infinite Monkey problem using gambling monkeys?

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In summary, the expected time taken for the process described above can be viewed as a discrete-time renewal process, with a "renewal" occurring at time n if the last letter of "abracadabra" happens at time n. Using this logic, and the concept of mean time between renewals, the expected time taken can be calculated. This can also be solved using a Markov chain, but the renewal argument is simpler. Another solution involves using gambling monkeys.
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I would have thought this would just be 2611 (in whatever units) for the expected time taken, does anyone know where the other two terms come from?

Should my expectation be drawn from some kind of distribution?

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Firepanda said:
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I would have thought this would just be 2611 (in whatever units) for the expected time taken, does anyone know where the other two terms come from?

Should my expectation be drawn from some kind of distribution?

Thanks

You can view the process as a discrete-time renewal process, where a "renewal" occurs at time n if the last letter of "abracadabra" happens at time n. Following the logic in Feller, "Introduction to Probability Theory and Its Applications, Vol. I" (Wiley, 1968), pp. 323--328), let un = Pr{renewal occurs at time n}, and note that we have
[tex] (1/26)^{11} = u_n + (1/26)^7 u_{n-7} + (1/26)^{10} u_{n-10}. [/tex]
The process is "aperiodic", so [itex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} u_n = 1/\mu[/itex] exists, where μ is the mean time between renewals = mean time to first renewal. So, we have
[tex] (1/26)^{11} = (1/\mu)[1 + (1/26)^7 + (1/26)^{10}], [/tex]
which gives you what you want. To really grasp what is going on you need to go and read Feller or some more modern books that deal with Renewal Theory.

Alternatively, you can set up a somewhat complicated Markov chain representation and compute a mean first-passage time. However, the renewal argument is much, much simpler---assuming you know what it is about in the first place.

RGV
 
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What is the Infinite Monkey problem?

The Infinite Monkey problem is a thought experiment that explores the concept of randomness and probability. It questions whether a monkey, randomly hitting keys on a typewriter for an infinite amount of time, could eventually produce a specific piece of literature, such as a Shakespeare play.

What is the significance of the Infinite Monkey problem?

The Infinite Monkey problem highlights the concept of randomness and the role of probability in creating patterns. It also challenges the idea of determinism and the notion that everything is predetermined.

What are the limitations of the Infinite Monkey problem?

The Infinite Monkey problem is a theoretical concept and cannot be tested in reality. It also assumes that the monkey has an infinite amount of time and is able to hit the keys with perfect randomness, which is not realistic.

What real-life applications does the Infinite Monkey problem have?

The Infinite Monkey problem has been used in various fields such as mathematics, computer science, and philosophy to explore concepts of randomness, probability, and determinism. It has also been used to explain the idea of the "infinite universe" in cosmology.

What are some variations of the Infinite Monkey problem?

Some variations of the Infinite Monkey problem include using different types of keyboards or input methods, such as a piano or a computer keyboard, and exploring the concept of "monkeys" with different abilities, such as a group of people or a computer program.

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