Does the series Converge or Diverge ?

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In summary, the conversation discusses applying the Ratio Test to determine the convergence of the series ∑ln(n!)/(n^3)*ln(n) as n approaches infinity. It is concluded that the series converges by Direct Comparison Test, as the expression is less than 1/n^2, which is a convergent series.
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1. Homework Statement


Ʃ ln(n!)/(n^3)*ln(n)
n=2

2. Homework Equations

Ratio test, which states:
Lim as n tends to infinity of |(An+1)/An|=ρ would lead to convergent series if the limit is less than 1
it diverges if ρ is greater than 1
test is inconclusive if ρ=1

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I thought of applying Ratio test but didn't know how to cancel out terms
 
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smb26 said:
1. Homework Statement


Ʃ ln(n!)/(n^3)*ln(n)
n=2

2. Homework Equations

Ratio test, which states:
Lim as n tends to infinity of |(An+1)/An|=ρ would lead to convergent series if the limit is less than 1
it diverges if ρ is greater than 1
test is inconclusive if ρ=1

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I thought of applying Ratio test but didn't know how to cancel out terms

n! = 2 * 3 * 4 * ... * (n - 1) * n

ln(a*b) = ln(a) + ln(b)

Is ln(n) in the numerator or denominator? The way you write the series, most would read as
$$ \sum_{n = 2}^{\infty} \frac{ln(n!) \cdot ln(n)}{n^3}$$
 
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ln(n) is in the deonminator
 
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The ratio test seems to work. Care to show us how far you got along in trying to simplify?
 
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[ln((n+1)!)]/[ln(n+1)*(n+1)^3] * [ln(n)*n^3]/[ln(n!)]

now at infinity n^3/(n+1)^3 will give 1 & ln(n)/ln(n+1) will give 1 I guess
but what about ln((n+1)!)/ln(n!) what is this going to give & how to prove...

Can this be done by Direct Comparison Test or Limit Comparison Test??
 
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smb26 said:
ln(n) is in the deonminator
Then you need to write the expression with more grouping symbols, like so:
ln(n!)/[(n^3)*ln(n)]
 
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Mark44 said:
n! = 2 * 3 * 4 * ... * (n - 1) * n

ln(a*b) = ln(a) + ln(b)

Is ln(n) in the numerator or denominator? The way you write the series, most would read as
$$ \sum_{n = 2}^{\infty} \frac{ln(n!) \cdot ln(n)}{n^3}$$

The separation of ln(n!) will help me how ?
 
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It might or might not be helpful in the Ratio Test.
 
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I guess I found the solution

fact is
##X! < X^x## so we say that by Direct Comparison Test $$\frac{ln(n!)}{n^3 *ln(n)} < \frac {ln(n^n)}{n^3 *ln(n)} = \frac {n*ln(n)}{n^3 *ln(n)} = \frac {1}{n^2 } $$

since $$\frac {1}{n^2 } $$ is a convergent series of p=2, the $$Ʃ\frac{ln(n!)}{n^3 *ln(n)}$$ converges by Direct comparison test
 

1. What is the definition of convergence and divergence in a series?

Convergence and divergence refer to the behavior of a series as the number of terms increases. A series converges if the sum of its terms approaches a finite value as the number of terms increases, while a series diverges if the sum of its terms does not approach a finite value.

2. How do you determine if a series converges or diverges?

There are several tests that can be used to determine the convergence or divergence of a series, such as the ratio test, the root test, and the integral test. These tests compare the series to known convergent or divergent series, or use calculus to evaluate the behavior of the series.

3. What is the importance of determining convergence or divergence in a series?

Determining the convergence or divergence of a series is important in many areas of mathematics and science, as it allows us to make predictions about the behavior of the series and use it in calculations. It also helps us understand the underlying patterns and relationships in the series.

4. Can a series converge and diverge at the same time?

No, a series can only either converge or diverge. It cannot do both simultaneously. However, it is possible for a series to be conditionally convergent, meaning that it converges only when certain conditions are met.

5. How does the rate of convergence or divergence affect the behavior of a series?

The rate of convergence or divergence refers to how quickly the terms in a series approach a finite value or how quickly they diverge. A series with a faster rate of convergence will approach its limit more quickly, while a series with a slower rate of convergence may take longer to approach its limit. Similarly, a series with a faster rate of divergence will diverge more quickly, while a series with a slower rate of divergence may take longer to diverge to infinity.

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