Field Lines of Charged Particles: Speed & Emissions

In summary, the conversation revolves around the concept of field lines in relation to charged particles and their behavior. The question is raised about the similarity between radioactive particles emitting rays and the generation of field lines from charged particles. The types of rays (gamma, alpha, and beta) are discussed and their behavior is compared to that of charged particles. The idea of field lines as pedagogical constructs is mentioned and it is clarified that they are not real but rather a visualization tool for instruction. The relationship between flux density and the number of lines is also discussed, with the understanding that the lines are not meant to be a realistic representation but rather a proportional representation for instructional purposes. The conversation ends with a discussion on the constancy of flux density for charged
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astro2cosmos
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Like a radioactive particle emit rays, does this similar to the field lines of a charged particle?
at what speed these field lines are generated from the charge particle?
 
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What kind of rays are you talking about? Gamma rays, for example, are a form of electro-magnetic radiation, just as light is and behave exactly like light (with very, very high frequency). Alpha rays, on the other hand, are rays of alpha particles, consisting of two protons and two neutrons, so are charge and act exactly like charged particles! Beta particles are high speed electrons or protons, so again, charged particles.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
What kind of rays are you talking about? Gamma rays, for example, are a form of electro-magnetic radiation, just as light is and behave exactly like light (with very, very high frequency). Alpha rays, on the other hand, are rays of alpha particles, consisting of two protons and two neutrons, so are charge and act exactly like charged particles! Beta particles are high speed electrons or protons, so again, charged particles.

here I'm not talking about any particular ray, matter is about the field line velocity of a charged particle, as rays are of different frequency or velocity like this, does field lines generated from charged particle have any frequency or something like energy??
hope u understand now my Q?
 
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field lines are pedagogical constructs to help in instructions ... they are not real dear. do not worry none of the field lines will fly at high speed out of the electrons and hit you ... relax !
 
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nirax said:
field lines are pedagogical constructs to help in instructions ... they are not real dear. do not worry none of the field lines will fly at high speed out of the electrons and hit you ... relax !

if it is for instruction then why flux density is proportional to the density of lines.i mean there is not any criteria for making no. of lines passing through a small area.
it must have some reality to make sense!
 
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astro2cosmos said:
if it is for instruction then why flux density is proportional to the density of lines.i mean there is not any criteria for making no. of lines passing through a small area.
it must have some reality to make sense!
It is just a graphing tool. You simply draw the lines so that the number of lines passing through a small area is proportional to the flux density.
 
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suppose it is real and you take a small enough cross section which avoids all the lines (as the no of lines is finite you can always do this) .. does that mean there is no electro-magnetic field inside that cross section ... what if you take that cross section really near the electron .. does it not sound absurd to you that there are numerous small cross sections very near the electron which does not register any electric field ?

what DaleSpam is saying is correct ... one draws the lines after they have computed the flux just to show everything in a decent way to high school students like you. to make the diagrams realistic one draws the number of lines to be proportional to the cross section.
 
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DaleSpam said:
It is just a graphing tool. You simply draw the lines so that the number of lines passing through a small area is proportional to the flux density.

it may be. but without any criteria how we can just draw these lines, because flux density is constant for any charged particle unless it interupted by any other particle. so flux density is not depends on no. of lines that you draw. i think no. of lines is infinite for any charged particle/
ok
 
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astro2cosmos said:
it may be. but without any criteria how we can just draw these lines, because flux density is constant for any charged particle unless it interupted by any other particle. so flux density is not depends on no. of lines that you draw. i think no. of lines is infinite for any charged particle/
ok
I don't understand what you are trying to say here. Flux density for a charged particle is not constant, it falls off as 1/r². Again, it is useless to try to think of the lines as something real, they are a visualization tool, nothing more.
 

1. What are field lines of charged particles?

Field lines of charged particles are imaginary lines that represent the direction and strength of the electric field surrounding a charged particle. They extend outward from positively charged particles and inward towards negatively charged particles.

2. How do charged particles affect the speed of field lines?

The speed of field lines is directly proportional to the strength of the electric field. This means that the stronger the charge of a particle, the faster its field lines will move.

3. What determines the direction of field lines?

The direction of field lines is determined by the direction of the electric field. Field lines always point away from positively charged particles and towards negatively charged particles.

4. Do field lines of charged particles have a specific shape?

Field lines do not have a specific shape. They can vary in length, curvature, and spacing depending on the strength and distribution of the charged particles in the surrounding area. However, they always follow the general pattern of extending outward from positive charges and inward towards negative charges.

5. How do charged particles emit field lines?

Charged particles emit field lines due to their electric charge. This charge creates an electric field around the particle, which in turn causes field lines to radiate outward. The speed at which the field lines are emitted depends on the strength of the electric field and the charge of the particle.

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