How do intelectual property rights apply to scientific discoveries?

In summary, the conversation discusses the issue of intellectual property rights in scientific discoveries and whether the person who discovered a way to unify General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics would be entitled to a portion of the revenue generated by a new product that relies on this improved understanding. The consensus is that the person would not be entitled to any profits as the patent would belong to the person who actually created the product. The conversation also mentions the potential impact of applying intellectual property rights to scientific discoveries on scientific progress, with some arguing that it could lead to more private capital investment in research while others argue it could result in reduced sharing of research and ideas. It is noted that patent law does not protect laws of nature or ideas, only tangible inventions, and trade secrets may
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Say for example I discovered how to unify General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics and then someone else uses this improved understanding of physics to engineer a new product which would have been impossible without it. Am I entitled to a portion of the revenue generated by the new product?

What about all the electronics now on the market that rely heavily on principles of quantum mechanics? Can the physicists who discovered those principals (or their heirs) claim a portion of the revenue generated? What about the universities or laboratories that funded the research that resulted in said discoveries?
 
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mrspeedybob said:
Say for example I discovered how to unify General Relativity with Quantum Mechanics and then someone else uses this improved understanding of physics to engineer a new product which would have been impossible without it. Am I entitled to a portion of the revenue generated by the new product?
No. The "someone else" would hold the patent and you would not have any statutory rights to the invention nor any royalties, profits, or other revenues.
 
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Do you know if anyone has ever conducted any studies to determine if applying intellectual property rights to scientific discoveries would result in...

More private capital investment in research -> greater scientific progress

or

Reduced sharing of research and ideas -> less scientific progress

I'm sure both would happen, but has anybody done any serious study on what the net effect would be?
 
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You can't patent an idea. And you can't protect anything once it is in the public domain.

So your only best chance of making money from your unified theory is never to publish the theory, but invent some patentable gizmo that uses it yourself.

Of course that means it's hard to tell whether or not you are a crackpot - but plenty of crackpots make money, so why is that a big deal? :devil:
 
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AlephZero said:
You can't patent an idea.

And even worse - you can't patent a fact.
 
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Patent law [title 37, us code of federal regulations] specifically excludes protection of laws of nature. This includes things such as mathematical formulas, and even extends to naturally occurring genes. Engineered genes can, however, be protected - usually. This area of law is new and continually evolving. GATT stirred things up at the PTO and has had a significant impact of us patent laws. Non-patented inventions can be protected under the trade secrets provision of the patent law. The problem is it offers no protection if someone figures out your 'secret' - unless they stole it from you. Trade secrets are normally reserved for things that are difficult to reverse engineer - like a special process.
 

1. What is intellectual property?

Intellectual property refers to the legal rights that creators have over their original works or inventions. It includes patents, trademarks, copyrights, and trade secrets.

2. How do intellectual property rights apply to scientific discoveries?

Intellectual property rights can apply to scientific discoveries in several ways. For example, a scientist can apply for a patent to protect their invention, such as a new drug or technology. They can also copyright their research papers or publications. Additionally, trade secrets can be used to protect confidential information related to the discovery.

3. Who owns the intellectual property rights to scientific discoveries?

In most cases, the individual or team of scientists who made the discovery will own the intellectual property rights. However, if the discovery was made while working for a company or university, the institution may have ownership rights. It is important for scientists to understand their rights and any agreements they have signed regarding intellectual property.

4. How can intellectual property rights be enforced for scientific discoveries?

Intellectual property rights can be enforced through legal action. If someone infringes on a patent or uses copyrighted material without permission, the owner can file a lawsuit. It is important for scientists to properly document and protect their discoveries to prevent infringement.

5. Are there any exceptions to intellectual property rights for scientific discoveries?

Yes, there are some exceptions to intellectual property rights for scientific discoveries. For example, if the discovery is considered to be a basic scientific principle or law of nature, it cannot be patented. Additionally, some countries have laws that allow for compulsory licensing, which allows others to use the invention under certain conditions without the permission of the owner.

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