What does it mean if my result is off the known value by one Sigma?

In summary, the conversation discusses how a result that is 1.43 σ off from the known value has a probability of ~85%. This means that in a repeat experiment with perfect uncertainty analysis, 85% of the measurements are expected to be closer to the true value. This approximation is based on a gaussian error distribution and assumes that the uncertainty of the measurement is known. In real experiments, this may not always be the case and the known value cannot always be used as the true value. The conversation also mentions a specific experiment, the Franck Hertz experiment, which had high precision but low accuracy due to using 30-year-old equipment.
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I'm putting together a lab report and my result is off from the known value by 1.43 σ. According to the error function tables provided by my prof, and using the error function in my error analysis textbook, that gives me a probability of ~85%.

I don't understand what this means though. Will a repeat experiment have an 85% chance of being within my standard of deviation or was there only a 15% chance that my result would be off by this much? The discrepancy between the known value and my experimental value is less than my total uncertainty so I think my result is reasonable.
 
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If you repeat the experiment with perfect uncertainty analysis over and over again and have uncorrelated deviations, 85% of those experiments should be closer to the "true" value.
Note that this is an approximation for a gaussian error where the width does not change significantly if your measured value changes a bit. If that is not true, you need something like the Feldman-Cousins method to get a similar number.
 
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Ok, I can see how that makes sense but I don't understand why it works like that.
 
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Let's assume we know the exact value and all sources of error in the measurement (which can depend on that exact value), so we can predict how the measurements will be distributed. In addition, let's assume a gaussian distribution of those errors. If you get one measurement 1.43σ away from this exact value, you know that just 15% of all measurements will get a larger deviation (this is just a result of the gaussian distribution).

In a real experiment, you cannot use your knowledge of the exact value - you have to estimate the uncertainty based on your measurement. In many studies, this does not matter, and you can work like you had the situation described above: A gaussian distribution around the exact value, with the uncertainty of your measurement.
 
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mfb said:
In a real experiment, you cannot use your knowledge of the exact value - you have to estimate the uncertainty based on your measurement. In many studies, this does not matter, and you can work like you had the situation described above: A gaussian distribution around the exact value, with the uncertainty of your measurement.

Perhaps to clarify: in the OP situation the described "known" value is assumed to be the true value (forming the so-called null hypothesis), and this number of 85% is cooked up using that assumption, and -as mfb says- the assumption that you understand your uncertainties.
 
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Ok I get it now, thank you both.

If you're curious, I was conducting a repeat of the Franck Hertz experiment with 30 year old equipment. High precision, low accuracy.
 
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This really means that you cannot throw away your "known" value if you are interested in using it as the "true" value, at usual 1% or 5% levels. Because, even if the "known" is exactly the "true" value, then in the long run of your experiment you will get 15% values off by at least that much.
 

1. What does it mean if my result is off the known value by one Sigma?

This means that your result is within one standard deviation (Sigma) of the known value. In other words, your result is close to the expected value, but there is a possibility that it may deviate slightly due to random chance or experimental error.

2. How significant is a one Sigma difference in my result?

A one Sigma difference is considered to be within the range of normal variation. It is not a significant difference and does not necessarily indicate a problem with the accuracy of your result.

3. Should I be concerned if my result is off by one Sigma?

It depends on the context of your experiment and the level of precision required for your results. In some cases, a one Sigma difference may be acceptable and not cause for concern. However, in other cases, it may be important to investigate further to ensure the accuracy of your results.

4. How does a one Sigma difference affect the reliability of my results?

A one Sigma difference does not necessarily affect the reliability of your results. It is important to consider the magnitude of the difference and the level of precision required for your experiment to determine the impact on reliability. In some cases, a one Sigma difference may be negligible and not affect the overall reliability of your results.

5. What steps can I take to reduce a one Sigma difference in my results?

To reduce a one Sigma difference in your results, you can take steps to improve the precision and accuracy of your experiment. This may include increasing the sample size, using more precise measurement tools, and minimizing sources of error. It is also important to carefully analyze and interpret your results to ensure that any potential sources of variation are properly accounted for.

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