Projectile rebound:good or bad?

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In summary, the conversation is about testing potential pad systems for ballistic helmets to reduce impact force and prevent traumatic brain or neck injuries. The first test involves dropping a 0.5 oz lead ball onto 1/4" thick pad material and measuring rebound height and penetration into clay. The second test involves dropping a helmet with the pad system onto a concrete floor and measuring the rebound height of a tennis ball attached to the crown pad. There is a question about whether rebound is desirable or not, and it is suggested to also measure the rate of acceleration using accelerometers and a dummy head of the same mass as a real head.
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I am involved in a project that includes testing potential pad systems of ballistic helmets for impact force absorption. This does not involve a projectile, such as a bullet, piercing the shell, but rather an object striking the helmet with such force that traumatic brain or neck injuries will occur. Our goal is to identify materials that would reduce, as much as possible, the impact force that is transferred to the head of the wearer, however that can be achieved. A question has arisen as to whether rebound of a test projectile off of the pad material is desirable or not.
The below tests are not representative of a high force impact, and are not intended to collect data, they are merely an in-house developed way to give us a direction to look for materials.
Our first test involved low force drop testing of a 0.5 oz lead ball from a distance of 2 feet onto 1/4" thick pad material and measuring the rebound height of the ball and the penetration, if any, of the ball into a layer of clay beneath the padding.
My thought is that the best results in this test would show little or no rebound, and would not allow the clay beneath it to be disturbed at all, or very little.
The second test involved dropping a helmet from a height of 4 feet, with the pad system inside, so that the crown of the helmet will strike the concrete floor. A tennis ball is lightly affixed to the crown pad, so that when the crown of the helmet hits the floor, the impact force that is not absorbed by the helmet shell, and the pad, will be transferred to the tennis ball, causing it to rebound into the air. The height of the rebound of the tennis ball was then measured on a background scale.
Again, my thought is that the best result would be the least rebound height. The other train of thought is that rebound is a redirection of the force and may be desirable.

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
 
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What you are measuring is the total energy transferred through the pad.
what you probably want is the rate of accelaration - that's what does the damage to the person, to do this you need to hookup accelerometers inside the helmet, you also want a dummy head of the same mass as a real head in the helmet.
 
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I understand the importance of finding materials that can effectively absorb impact force to reduce the risk of traumatic brain or neck injuries. In terms of rebound, it is important to consider the specific goals of your project and the potential consequences of rebound in your testing.

In the first test, it is reasonable to assume that the best results would show little to no rebound and minimal disturbance to the clay layer. This would indicate that the pad material effectively absorbed and dissipated the impact force, reducing the risk of injury to the wearer. However, it is also important to consider the potential consequences of a lack of rebound. If the pad material is too dense and does not allow any rebound, it may not be able to effectively redirect the impact force and transfer it away from the head. This could potentially result in higher levels of force being absorbed by the head and neck, increasing the risk of injury.

In the second test, the use of a tennis ball to measure rebound may not be a reliable indicator of the effectiveness of the pad material. The rebound of the tennis ball may be influenced by factors such as the surface texture of the helmet and the force applied by the drop. Additionally, it is important to consider the effects of rebound on the wearer. If the rebound is high, it could cause the helmet to shift or move on the head, potentially causing further injury.

Overall, it is important to carefully consider the role of rebound in your testing and the potential consequences of both high and low levels of rebound. It may be beneficial to conduct further research and testing to determine the optimal level of rebound for your specific project and goals.
 

1. Is projectile rebound considered to be good or bad?

There is no clear answer to this question as it depends on the context in which the projectile rebound occurs. In sports such as basketball or tennis, rebounding is considered a positive aspect as it gives the player a second chance to score. However, in other situations such as industrial accidents, projectile rebound can be extremely dangerous and cause harm to individuals.

2. What factors influence the rebound of a projectile?

The rebound of a projectile can be influenced by various factors such as the angle of impact, the surface material, the velocity of the projectile, and the elasticity of the surface. These factors can either increase or decrease the rebound of a projectile.

3. How does elasticity affect projectile rebound?

Elasticity is a measure of how much a material can deform and return to its original shape. When a projectile hits an elastic surface, the surface will deform and then quickly return to its original shape, resulting in a higher rebound. On the other hand, a less elastic surface will absorb more of the projectile's energy, leading to a lower rebound.

4. Can projectile rebound be controlled or manipulated?

In some cases, projectile rebound can be controlled or manipulated by altering the surface material or adjusting the angle of impact. For example, in sports like billiards, players use their skill and technique to control the rebound of the ball off the table. However, in other situations, such as industrial accidents, it may be challenging to control projectile rebound.

5. How can projectile rebound be measured or calculated?

Projectile rebound can be measured or calculated by using the coefficient of restitution (COR), which is a measure of the elasticity of a surface. It is calculated by dividing the speed of the projectile after impact by its speed before impact. The higher the COR, the higher the rebound of the projectile. Other methods such as high-speed cameras can also be used to measure and analyze projectile rebound.

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