Is Trigonometric Substitution Needed for ∫ √9-2(x-1)²?

In summary, the conversation was about solving the integral ∫ √9-2(x-1)² using either normal or trigonometric substitution. It was ultimately determined that trigonometric substitution was the best approach, with the substitution u = x-1 leading to the integral ∫ √9 - 2u² du. The conversation then progressed to discussing the specific steps involved in solving this integral through trigonometric substitution.
  • #1
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hi guys
im debating whether this question requires trignometric substitution or just normal substitution.

∫ √9-2(x-1)²

Im leaning towards normal substitution, with u = x-1, but I am not sure
Any ideas
Thanx heaps
 
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  • #2
Is it

[tex] \int \sqrt{9-(2x-1)^2} [/tex]?

If so a normal one won't do, youll need a trig one.
 
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  • #3
Try to bring it to the form

[tex] C\int\sqrt{1-(something)^2} \ dx [/tex]

,where C is a constant.

Daniel.
 
  • #4
2 is on the outside of the (x+1)
 
  • #5
(x-1) sorry
 
  • #6
Well if you substitute u = x-1, you get the integral...

[tex]\int \sqrt{9 - 2u^2}du[/tex]

I think trig substitution is where this is leading.
 
  • #7
yeah from what I remember, trig substitution was the way to go.

[tex] \sqrt(2) \int \sqrt{(9/2-u^{2})} ~du [/tex]
 
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  • #8
hi guys
im still stuck on this question, it has really got me stumped
i know that for the form

√a² - x².dx

x=asinθ, dx = acosθ.dθ

but i just can't seem to put it together
 
  • #9
Why not.U've got an |a| coming out of the sqrt and u'll get a square

[tex] \int \sqrt{a^{2}-x^{2}} \ dx =a|a|\int \cos^{2}\theta \ d\theta [/tex]

Then use the double angle formula.

Daniel.
 
  • #10
the 2 outside the (x-1)^2 is confusing me
Im not sure what my x and a squared is?
 
  • #11
Look at post #6.If you make the substitution

[tex] \sqrt{2}u=t [/tex],

u can put that integral under the form

[tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \int \sqrt{3^{2}-t^{2}} \ dt [/tex]

And now do that substitution involving "sin".

Daniel.
 
  • #12
so, sqrt 2u = sin theta
 
  • #13
Nope.[itex] u\sqrt{2}=3\sin\theta [/itex]

Daniel.
 

1. What is Integral Substitution?

Integral Substitution is a technique used in calculus to simplify the integration of a complex function by replacing it with a simpler function. It involves substituting a variable or expression within the integral with a new variable or expression, which helps to make the integral more manageable.

2. How does Integral Substitution work?

Integral Substitution works by using the chain rule in reverse. The new variable or expression is chosen in such a way that when it is substituted into the integral, it simplifies the function and makes it easier to integrate. The substitution is then followed by using the reverse chain rule to integrate the simplified function.

3. When should Integral Substitution be used?

Integral Substitution is most commonly used when the integrand contains a composition of two functions, such as f(g(x)). It can also be used when dealing with trigonometric functions, exponential functions, or rational functions.

4. What are the steps involved in Integral Substitution?

The steps involved in Integral Substitution are as follows:

  1. Identify the composition of functions in the integrand.
  2. Choose a new variable or expression to substitute in for the inner function.
  3. Rewrite the integral in terms of the new variable or expression.
  4. Use the reverse chain rule to integrate the new function.
  5. Substitute back in the original variable or expression to get the final answer.

5. What are some common mistakes to avoid when using Integral Substitution?

Some common mistakes to avoid when using Integral Substitution include: not properly identifying the composition of functions in the integrand, choosing an incorrect substitution, not adjusting the limits of integration after substitution, and forgetting to substitute back in the original variable or expression in the final answer. It is important to carefully follow the steps and check for any simplification errors in order to avoid these mistakes.

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