Does an Ellipse Intersecting a Circle Result in Imaginary Numbers?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of x and y being imaginary or real in the equations of a circle and ellipse, and how their values can determine if there is an intersection between the two shapes. In some cases, x may be real but greater than the radius of the circle, resulting in y being pure imaginary. The possibility of this scenario is explained through a plotted diagram on the cartesian plane.
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femas
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Hi

Let's say that we have equation of circle as

x2 + y2 = R2

and equation of ellipse in quadratic form as

A x2 + B y2 + Cx + D = 0

if the circle is inside the ellipse, so there is no intersection ...
Are x and y imag in this case? /or/ is one of them imag and the other is real ?... etc.
 
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No intersection would lead to say 'x' being a complex number.

So if you sub x=a+bi into any of the equations you will see that x2 gives a complex number as well, which would lead to 'y' being complex as well.
 
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Thank you for the reply.

But 'x' may be real but greater than R which makes 'y' to be pure imaginary.

So I don't know what is the case that makes 'x' real?
 
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femas said:
Thank you for the reply.

But 'x' may be real but greater than R which makes 'y' to be pure imaginary.

So I don't know what is the case that makes 'x' real?

Well if you are plotting on the cartesian plane, then I don't think you would see a geometric reason, if you perhaps plot it on an Argand diagram, you might see a geometric reason.
 
  • #5
rock.freak667 said:
No intersection would lead to say 'x' being a complex number.
Sure it would. Let's look at

[tex]\aligned
\phantom1 x^2+\phantom1 y^2 &= \phantom1 1 \\
9x^2 + 4y^2 &= 36
\endaligned[/tex]

The solutions (there are four of them) are given by [itex]x^2=32/5[/itex], [itex]y^2=-27/5[/itex]. Note that in this case y is pure imaginary.
 

1. What is an ellipse intersecting a circle?

An ellipse intersecting a circle refers to the point or points at which the two shapes overlap or cross each other. It is the set of all points in the plane that are common to both the ellipse and the circle.

2. How many points of intersection can an ellipse and a circle have?

An ellipse and a circle can have a maximum of two points of intersection. However, in some cases, the two shapes may not intersect at all or may have only one point of intersection.

3. What does the equation of an ellipse intersecting a circle look like?

The equation of an ellipse intersecting a circle is a system of two equations, one representing the ellipse and the other representing the circle. The general form of the equations is (x-h)^2/a^2 + (y-k)^2/b^2 = 1 and (x-m)^2 + (y-n)^2 = r^2, where (h,k) and (m,n) represent the center points of the ellipse and circle respectively, and a, b, and r represent the radii of the two shapes.

4. How can I find the points of intersection between an ellipse and a circle?

To find the points of intersection between an ellipse and a circle, you can solve the system of equations formed by their respective equations. This can be done algebraically by substitution or elimination, or graphically by plotting the equations on a coordinate plane.

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