Idea for an internal scanner using natural radioactivity

In summary, the conversation discusses two potential ideas for creating a personal cheap internal scanner. The first idea involves using an array of gamma ray detectors to deduce the internal structure of an organic object based on its natural radioactivity. The feasibility of this idea with current technology is limited by the cost of the detectors. The second idea involves shining light through an object in a dark room and using powerful detectors to see what light comes through the other side. However, it is noted that optical light is readily absorbed and this idea may not be as effective. It is also mentioned that gamma tomography, a similar concept, has already been developed.
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Here is an idea I had for a way to deduce the internal structure of an organic object using it's natural radioactivity.

The set-up is an array of gamma ray detectors located circularly around the object. By detecting both the position and direction of the gamma rays (obviously impossible to get them both accurately due to quantum mechanics but we can get a certain amount of information) emerging from the object one should be able to deduce the internal structure of an object.

Now apparently a human being only gives off about 500 gamma rays per second. So it would not be very useful for a human as they would have to sit a long time.

But for something like a tissue sample or a plant or even a radioactive fossil one could wait several hours and build up a 3D image. Assuming roughly the more dense part of an object was more radioactive you would get a density map.

Consider a radioactive pea sitting off-center from the array of detectors giving of thousand of gamma rays. It would create a unique pattern of gamma ray information which could be, by use of Fourier analysis, be used to deduce the exact location of that pea. Similarly with two peas. etc.

I think it would work best on organic objects since the gamma radiation they produce is more likely to escape to the outside than denser objects which absorb their own internal radiation more.What do you think the feasibility of this is with current technology? I think the limiting cost is the gamma ray detectors which are expensive. And presumably you'd need an array of them to get good information. Maybe it would cost as much as the LHC! For very radioactive materials you could save money just using one Geiger counter and moving it around but then you'd miss most of the photons so it is not most efficient.

The idea behind this is that I'm interested in how to build a personal cheap internal scanner.

Edit: Actually I think its all ready been invented: "Gamma camera" wikipedia. Although my version would just use natural radioactivity instead of inducing it.
 
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Second Idea

My second idea, is to shine normal light through an object in a very very very dark room and use very powerful detectors to see what light comes through the other side. I wonder what percent of light actually passes completely though an object? (Some must just due to quantum tunnelling.) But the question is do enough photons pass completely through a human and are detectable enough to form an image?

If you shine light through your thumb some comes out the other side although refracted so the internal structure is not visible. I wonder if there could be some algorithms to deduce the structure.

Or for example you could shine red light, but do so in a room fitting with a blue bulb so you can see what you were doing.
 
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The first post describes gamma tomography, which is already developed. That is the basis of a PET scan, as well as gamma tomography using an external source.

Optical light is readily absorbed. However, one can shine bright light on thin tissue, e.g., fingers, ears, nose lips and see the light through the other side.
 
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Back to the drawing board.
 
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I find this idea intriguing and innovative. Using natural radioactivity to deduce the internal structure of an object is definitely a unique approach. However, there are a few factors that need to be considered in terms of feasibility.

Firstly, the accuracy and resolution of the 3D image produced by this scanner would largely depend on the sensitivity and precision of the gamma ray detectors. As you mentioned, these detectors can be quite expensive, and a large array of them would be needed for a more detailed image. This could potentially make the cost of this scanner comparable to that of the Large Hadron Collider, which may not be feasible for personal or everyday use.

Additionally, the effectiveness of this scanner would also depend on the type and amount of natural radioactivity emitted by the object being scanned. While organic materials may produce more gamma rays that can escape to the outside, as you mentioned, this may not be the case for denser or inorganic materials. This could limit the usefulness of this scanner for a wider range of objects.

However, it is worth noting that similar techniques using induced radioactivity have been used in medical imaging, such as with PET scans. So, the idea itself is not entirely new. But, as you mentioned, your version would use natural radioactivity instead of inducing it, which could potentially make it more cost-effective.

In conclusion, while the concept of using natural radioactivity for an internal scanner is interesting, there are practical and technological limitations that need to be addressed for it to be feasible and cost-effective. Further research and development may be needed to make this idea a reality, but it certainly has potential in the field of imaging and diagnostics.
 

1. What is an internal scanner using natural radioactivity?

An internal scanner using natural radioactivity is a medical device that uses natural radiation emitted from the body to create images of internal organs and structures. It is similar to traditional medical imaging techniques, such as X-rays and CT scans, but uses the body's own radiation instead of external sources.

2. How does an internal scanner using natural radioactivity work?

The scanner works by detecting the natural radiation emitted from the body, which is caused by the radioactive elements present in our tissues. The scanner then converts this radiation into images using special detectors and computer software.

3. What are the benefits of using a natural radioactivity scanner?

One of the main benefits of using a natural radioactivity scanner is that it eliminates the need for external sources of radiation, which can be harmful to the body. It also provides high-quality images without the use of contrast agents, reducing the risk of allergic reactions.

4. Are there any risks associated with using an internal scanner using natural radioactivity?

The amount of radiation used in this type of scanner is very low and considered safe for medical use. However, pregnant women and children are advised to avoid this type of imaging, as their bodies are more sensitive to radiation exposure.

5. How is an internal scanner using natural radioactivity different from other medical imaging techniques?

This type of scanner is unique in that it uses the body's own radiation instead of external sources. It also offers a different perspective on the body's internal structures and can be used for a variety of purposes, such as identifying tumors and evaluating organ function.

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