How to find/graph instantaneous speed vs time

In summary, the student attempted to solve homework equations for the distance vs time squared, but was confused by the instructions. They graphed the data and found that the line was constant and should be a line of form y = mx + b.
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Arooj
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Homework Statement



I have to construct two graphs ( distance vs time and instantaneous speed vs time) based off of a lab in which we made measurements based off of a spark timer and paper tape. I made the following measurements and constructed the D vs T graph based off of them:

t / "x" in meters
0.0 / 0.00
0.1 / 0.0360
0.2 / 0.161
0.3 / 0.382
0.4 / 0.697
0.5 / 1.109
0.6 / 1.614

My question is pertaining to making the instantaneous speed vs time graph
For this, we had to find the instantaneous speed at the midpoint of each interval.

"From your distance vs time graph, find the instantaneous speed at the midpoint of each 0.1 second interval. You can do this by either drawing a tangent line at the midpoint of each interval and determining its slope, or by finding the average speed for each of the intervals."

I was a bit confused by this instruction. Drawing a tangent line was and finding the instantaneous speed was impossible, so the teacher told us to find the average speed for each interval.

Homework Equations



t2-t1/s2-s1 (I think)

The Attempt at a Solution



To find the IS, I first found the midpoint of the time interval (ex: (0.2 + 0.3)/2]= 0.250. Then I divided the displacement of the interval by the midpoint of the time interval (ex: interval 0.2-0.3) (0.382-1.161)/0.250 = 0.884

Time interval /Midpoint of interval /Inst. speed in m's
0.0-0.1 / 0.0500 / 0.720
0.1-0.2 / 0.150 / 0.833
0.2-0.3 / 0.250 / 0.884
... ... ...

I feel like my calculations are incorrect. Also, when plotting the graph would the instantaneous speed be plotted against the time (ex. 0.720/ 0.1) or against the midpoint of the interval (0.0720/0.05)? I plotted form 0.720 / 0.1, and I came up with a graph that looked rose up from zero and leveled off, like a logarithm graph beginning at zero.
 
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Dividing " the displacement of the interval by the midpoint of the time interval" is NOT how you find "instantaneous speed". The displacement of the interval is change in distance and you need the corresponding change in time- a time interval, not a single time. The theoretical "instaneous speed" would be the limit as the distance interval, and so corresponding time interval, went to 0. If you cannot do that here- having only given fixed intervals, the best approximation you can get is the "average speed" over the shortest possible intervals.
 
  • #3
Thanks, I figured out how to do that part. But then how would you graph distance vs time squared? Would you square the time?

t / "x" in meters
0.0 / 0.00
0.1 / 0.0360
0.2 / 0.161
0.3 / 0.382
0.4 / 0.697
0.5 / 1.109
0.6 / 1.614

time squared / distance
0.0 / 0.00
0.01 / 0.0360
0.04 / 0.161
0.09 / 0.382
... / ...
The graph for distance vs time squared is supposed to be constant or close to constant, because any falling body's acceleration is -9.81 m/s^2

And should the graph of instantaneous speed be a line of form y = mx + b? It kind of looks like this (/) and I also included the point zero, which I wasn't sure to include or not because its not an interval of time.( next values after zero are 0.0 - 0.1, 0.1-0.2, and so on, so the line from zero to 0.0-0.1 has a different slope from the rest of the line.)
 
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In plotting the distance vs time squared, you should plot t2 as the abscissa, and d as the ordinate. The slope of the line should be constant, and equal to a/2 (if this is motion down an inclined plane or free fall motion).

The instantaneous velocity at the midpoint (timewise) of each interval can be approximated very accurately by Δd/Δt. This velocity applies to the center of the time interval t1/2 = (t1+t2)/2. You should plot the center of each time interval as the abscissa, and the ordinate as the velocity at the midpoint.
 
  • #5
Thank you. So to find the instantaneous velocity, I would just really be dividing a the distance change by the time change.

(So would you always divide the change in distance by 0.1, a constant time change for each interval because 0.5-0.4 = 0.1, 0.3 - 0.2 = 0.1, and so on? Correct me if I am wrong.

And also for some reason my graph for distance vs time squared rises and levels off; points 0.01-0.16 will look like a rising line and then points 0.25-0.36 will level off at a value.
 
  • #6
Arooj said:
Thank you. So to find the instantaneous velocity, I would just really be dividing a the distance change by the time change.

(So would you always divide the change in distance by 0.1, a constant time change for each interval because 0.5-0.4 = 0.1, 0.3 - 0.2 = 0.1, and so on? Correct me if I am wrong.

And also for some reason my graph for distance vs time squared rises and levels off; points 0.01-0.16 will look like a rising line and then points 0.25-0.36 will level off at a value.

The time interval will not always be constant. It all depends on the values of time at which you make the measurements.

The shape of the distance vs time squared plot depends on the geometry of the track. You should be able to look at the instantaneous velocity vs time plot and get a better understanding of what is happening. If a portion of the velocity vs time plot is a straight line, then the acceleration is constant. You should be able to examine the track shape and see why the acceleration is constant in that section of track. Play around with the different plots you have and the corresponding shape of various sections of the track, and see if you can make sense of it. This is what I would do if I were analyzing the system.

Chet
 
  • #7
Also, as I said before, that does NOT give you the "instantaneous velocity". It gives the average velocity over the interval.
 
  • #8
HallsofIvy said:
Also, as I said before, that does NOT give you the "instantaneous velocity". It gives the average velocity over the interval.

It also provides a second order accurate approximation to the instantaneous velocity at the midpoint of the interval, and an exact determination for the instantaneous velocity at the midpoint for the special case in which distance vs time variation is a parabola.

Chet
 

1. What is instantaneous speed vs time?

Instantaneous speed vs time is a graph that shows the relationship between an object's speed and time at a given moment. It represents the object's speed at a specific point in time, rather than an average speed over a period of time.

2. How do you find the instantaneous speed from a position vs time graph?

To find the instantaneous speed from a position vs time graph, you would need to find the slope of the curve at a specific point. This can be done by drawing a tangent line at that point and finding its slope using the rise over run method. The slope of the tangent line represents the instantaneous speed at that particular time.

3. How do you graph instantaneous speed vs time?

To graph instantaneous speed vs time, you will need to plot the instantaneous speed on the y-axis and time on the x-axis. The data points can be obtained by calculating the instantaneous speed at different points in time using the method mentioned above.

4. What is the difference between instantaneous speed and average speed?

Instantaneous speed refers to the speed of an object at a specific point in time, while average speed is the total distance traveled divided by the total time taken. Average speed gives an overall picture of an object's speed over a period of time, while instantaneous speed shows the speed at a particular moment.

5. How is instantaneous speed useful in real-life situations?

Instantaneous speed is useful in many real-life situations, such as driving a car, playing sports, or measuring the speed of a moving object. It allows us to understand the speed of an object at a specific moment, which can be crucial in making decisions and predicting future movements.

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