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| Nov13-12, 10:37 AM | #1 |
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Hydrogen bonding in ethanol
Hey,
How do you know how many hydrogen bonds ethanol molecules will form with each other? I know there are 3 sites where H bonds could form (2 lone pairs on oxygen and the hydrogen) but with something like hydrogen fluoride, each molecule only forms 1 H bond on average so shouldn't something similar happen with ethanol since each has only one hydrogen bond to 'donate'? Thanks :) |
| Nov13-12, 12:51 PM | #2 |
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Check the definition of Hydrogen Bonding at wikipedia. H-Bonding is a special, stronger case of dipole-dipole attraction. The bond is slightly polarized, which may be seen as an electric dipole of some small "charge".
In HF, F has slight negative "charge" and H has an equivalent positive "charge", so F only forms one H-Bond. But in Ethanol, O has more negative charge than H has positive charge (Ethyl group has +I effect) so overall, O-atom can enough polarization to form two H-Bond. |
| Nov13-12, 03:30 PM | #3 |
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Thanks for replying :) I've just read Wikipedia's entry but I think I must still be missing something :/
I understand the +I effect and how the O-atom can form two H-bonds, but the H-atom also forms a H-bond with an O lone pair on another ethanol doesn't it? So does that mean each molecule forms 3 H-bonds then? :S |
| Nov13-12, 10:59 PM | #4 |
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Hydrogen bonding in ethanol
You may check this figure. It says something else.
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| Nov14-12, 09:05 AM | #5 |
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Yeah I mean I know that my idea of how it might bond is wrong but I'm just not sure of exactly what makes it different
![]() So in your picture, for one molecule of ethanol (on average): one lone pair on the O-atom 'accepts' a H-bond from another molecule, and one of it's H-atoms 'donates' a H-bond to another molecule's lone pair, giving 2 H-bonds per molecule? I just want to check that's right first :) |
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