Why do ice skaters bend at an angle when taking a turn at high speed?

In summary, ice skaters bend at an angle when taking a turn at high speed in order to counteract inertia and maintain circular motion. This is similar to the gyro effect in motorcyclists. The lean angle is determined by the formula tan-1(v2 / (g r)), and is unrelated to any gyroscopic effect. By leaning inwards, the skater's center of mass is moved away from the point of contact with the floor, providing an opposing torque and allowing for circular motion without any net torque. This is necessary because the force required for circular motion is applied at the skater's base, rather than their center of mass.
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Why do ice skaters bend at an angle when taking a turn at high speed?
I saw some pictures of ice skaters leaning while taking turn...in case of motorcyclists it is due to gyro effect but what in this case?
 
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It is essentially the same effect. It is necessary to counteract inertia, which would tend to keep them going straight.
 
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is there any analysis of this effect (as that of gyro there exists based on angular momentum, active reactive couple) ?
Why they would lean? Inertia would still throw them forward while turning theorotically!
 
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Intertia "throws" them toward the outside of the curve.
 
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Leaning is done so that the outwards roll torque related to centrepital force is countered by an inwards roll torque related to gravity.

Lean angle (from vertical) θ = tan-1(v2 / (g r) ).

This is unrelated to any gyroscopic effect. You could replace the wheels and tires of a bicycle with rounded skate bladed and be able to glide and steer on ice conventionally, without any gyroscopic effects.
 
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Force required for circular motion should be applied on the centre of mass, but for an ice skater it is applied at their base. To avoid spinning outwards they lean in. The effect of this is to move your centre of mass away from vertical with the point of contact with the floor, which provides an opposing torque (the reaction force from the floor no longer coincides with your centre of mass).

If you get the angle right you have circular motion and no net torque.

(Basically what rcgldr said but wordier).
 

1. Why do ice skaters bend at an angle when taking a turn at high speed?

Ice skaters bend at an angle when taking a turn at high speed because of the laws of physics. When an object, in this case the ice skater, is moving in a circular path, there is a centripetal force acting on it that pulls it towards the center of the circle. In order to maintain balance and stay on the circular path, the skater must lean towards the center of the turn.

2. What role does friction play in ice skating turns?

Friction is essential in ice skating turns as it allows the skater to grip onto the ice and push off in the desired direction. Without friction, the skater would slip and slide across the ice, making it impossible to take turns at high speeds.

3. Can the angle of the bend affect the speed of the turn?

Yes, the angle of the bend can affect the speed of the turn. The sharper the angle, the tighter the turn will be and the slower the skater will go. On the other hand, a wider angle will result in a wider turn and a higher speed.

4. How do ice skaters use their arms and upper body when taking a turn?

Ice skaters use their arms and upper body to maintain balance and control during turns. They may also use their arms to generate centrifugal force, which helps them maintain their speed and momentum throughout the turn.

5. Is it more efficient for ice skaters to take turns at high speed while leaning forward or backward?

It is more efficient for ice skaters to take turns at high speed while leaning forward. This allows for better control and balance, and also helps the skater maintain their speed and momentum. Leaning backward can cause the skater to lose control and slow down, resulting in a less efficient turn.

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