Simplifying Expression using Logarithms

In summary: So it would be log(2x2x0.0625) = log(0.25).Therefore, the final answer would be log(0.25/1.75) = log(1/7).In summary, the attached expression can be simplified using logarithmic rules to become log(1/7).
  • #1
jahaddow
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Simplify the attached expression using any relevant logarithmic rules

I haven't really done much with logarithms, so i didnt know where to start?
 

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  • #2
jahaddow said:
Simplify the attached expression using any relevant logarithmic rules

I haven't really done much with logarithms, so i didnt know where to start?

Given problem can be written as

log(2)4 + log(16)1/4 + log(1/4)2 - log(7/4)

Now use laws of logarithm to simplify.
 
  • #3
the problem is I don't know how to do that?
 
  • #4
jahaddow said:
the problem is I don't know how to do that?

log(a) + log(b) = log(ab)

log(a) - log(b) = log(a/b)
 
  • #5
jahaddow said:
Simplify the attached expression using any relevant logarithmic rules

I haven't really done much with logarithms, so i didnt know where to start?

jahaddow said:
the problem is I don't know how to do that?
Then you should start by learning the "relevant logarithmic rules"!

[itex]log(ab)= log(a)+ log(b)[/itex]

[itex]log(a/b)= log(a)- lob(b)[/itex]

[itex]log(a^b)= b log(a)[/itex]
 
  • #6
Can somebody please demonstrate the question?
 
  • #7
No, you need to solve it yourself; you received sufficient help in the previous posts. Follow that advice.
 
  • #8
That advice dosent get me anywhere!
 
  • #9
Post what you have tried so far pertaining to the advice, or post and ask a question regarding the advice. If I asked you to simplify log(a) + log(b), how would you do it?
 
  • #10
well that would be log(ab)
 
  • #11
Yes, so look at the 3 logarithm rules provided by HallsofIvy and apply them to your problem.
 
  • #12
ok so I'm up to log(2^2) + log(16^1/4) + log(1/4^2) - log(7/4)
 
  • #13
Instead of log(22) it should be something else. Now, continue until you get an expression with only one log.
 
  • #14
yes ok it would be log(2^4), but then I really am stuck on what to do next!
 
  • #15
jahaddow said:
well that would be log(ab)

Follow your own advice. :wink:
 
  • #16
I don't know how to!
 
  • #17
jahaddow said:
I don't know how to!

OK.

What is 24, 161/4 and 42?

Substitute these values in my post #2 and simplify by using the relevant equation given by us.
 
  • #18
Would the answer be log(2/1.75)
 
  • #19
Ok, now I have one which is attached.
I have managed to get to this
logx4/logx1/3
What do I do from here?
 

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  • #20
Or would it be 12logx? I don't know.
 
  • #21
jahaddow said:
Or would it be 12logx? I don't know.

Your answer for the first problem is correct. But write it as a single number, not in the form of a fraction.

In the second problem from where did you get log(x) along with 12?
 
  • #22
The second problem, I worked out to be just 12 now. But the first problem, 2/1.75 equals a long decimal, so wouldn't I just leave it as a fraction?
 
  • #23
jahaddow said:
The second problem, I worked out to be just 12 now. But the first problem, 2/1.75 equals a long decimal, so wouldn't I just leave it as a fraction?

In that case you can write it as 8/7
 
  • #24
Thankyou Very Much! :D
 
  • #25
just one more question, how do I simplify this and express with positive indices.
(18x^3 X 2x^-4)/(4x^-5 X 6x)
 
  • #26
jahaddow said:
just one more question, how do I simplify this and express with positive indices.
(18x^3 X 2x^-4)/(4x^-5 X 6x)

[tex]\frac{36x^3}{x^4}\times\frac{24x}{x^5}[/tex]

Now simplify.
 
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could someone plese show a bit more detail with the second problem, where did 12 come from.
 
  • #28
xX-Cyanide-Xx said:
could someone plese show a bit more detail with the second problem, where did 12 come from.
= [tex]\frac{4\times3\log{x}}{\log{x}}[/tex]

Now siplify.
 
  • #29
I missed the step before that. wheres the 3 come from?

Sorry I am really bad at this.
 
  • #30
xX-Cyanide-Xx said:
I missed the step before that. wheres the 3 come from?

Sorry I am really bad at this.

[tex]\frac{1}{\frac{1}{3}\log{x}} = \frac{3}{\log{x}}[/tex]
 
  • #31
Ok i think i got it now. i got it down to 12 by doing this:

2Logx^2 / 1/3Logx
= 4Logx / 1/3Logx
=4 * 3Logx / Logx
=12Logx / Logx
=12

is all the working out correct? if not can u show me the full question with working, all set out as if it were a test?
 
  • #32
xX-Cyanide-Xx said:
Ok i think i got it now. i got it down to 12 by doing this:

2Logx^2 / 1/3Logx
= 4Logx / 1/3Logx
=4 * 3Logx / Logx
=12Logx / Logx
=12

is all the working out correct? if not can u show me the full question with working, all set out as if it were a test?
Yes. It is correct.
 
  • #33
cool, but now, back to the first question.

i got up to:
Log(2^4) + Log(16^1/4) + Log(1/4^2)
= Log 16 + Log 4 + Log 0.0625 - Log 1.75
Is this correct?

Then would it go:
Log(16 x 4 x 0.0625) = Log4
= Log(4/1.75)
So y have i got 4/1.75, and jahaddo has 2/1.75??
please help...
 
  • #34
Can someone please help!
why ismy answer 4/1.75 when jahaddo has 2/1.75??

HELP PLEASE!
 
  • #35
16^1/4 = 2, not 4.
 

What is a logarithm?

A logarithm is the inverse function of an exponential. It is used to solve for the exponent in an exponential equation. For example, in the equation 2^x = 8, the logarithm would be used to find the value of x.

Why do we use logarithms to simplify expressions?

Logarithms are useful for simplifying expressions because they allow us to condense large numbers or complex equations into more manageable forms. They also help us solve for unknown variables in exponential equations.

How do we simplify expressions using logarithms?

To simplify an expression using logarithms, we use the properties of logarithms to rewrite the expression in a more condensed form. This includes using the product, quotient, and power properties of logarithms.

What are the common mistakes when simplifying expressions using logarithms?

Some common mistakes when simplifying expressions using logarithms include forgetting to apply the properties of logarithms correctly, using the wrong base for the logarithm, and not simplifying the expression fully.

Can we use logarithms to solve any type of equation?

No, logarithms can only be used to solve equations where the variable is in the exponent. They cannot be used to solve for variables in other types of equations, such as linear or quadratic equations.

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