Proving One-Sided Limits - Jack

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove that the limit as f(x) approaches a from above is equal to the limit as f(x) approaches a from below. The group discusses different methods such as using delta-epsilon proofs and considering the continuity of the function at point a. They also mention that this is only applicable if f(a) exists and provide an example of a function where the limit above and below f(a) is equal but the function is undefined at that point.
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Hi people,
could anyone tell me how to prove that the limit as f(x) approaches a from above equals the limit as f(x) approaches a from below? I can't see how to approach this proof, thx

Jack
 
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The question as you stated it is too vague. In any case if f(x) is discontinuous, it just won't be true.
 
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Unless you have some sort of piecewise function, I see this as fairly straightfoward. If

(1) [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow{a+}}f(x)=f(a)=\lim_{x\rightarrow{a-}}f(x)[/tex],

then f(x) is continuous at x=a. What is your proof concerning? Continuity, delta-epsilon proofs?
 
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i'm guessing it's the epsilon-delta stuff.
 
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Jameson said:
Unless you have some sort of piecewise function, I see this as fairly straightfoward. If

(1) [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow{a+}}f(x)=f(a)=\lim_{x\rightarrow{a-}}f(x)[/tex],

then f(x) is continuous at x=a. What is your proof concerning? Continuity, delta-epsilon proofs?

That condition is not accurate, consider this function:

[tex]f(x) = \frac{x^2-1}{x-1}[/tex]

The limit above and below f(1) is equal to 2 though it is undefined at that point.
 
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It's obvious that Jameson meant for f(a) (a = 1 in this case) to exist, seeing as he mentioned that something should be equal to it, and in that case, the condition is accurate.
 
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I know what he means. He is talking about a function between points (a,f(a)) and (b,f(b)) and he wants to know how to prove the limit at x=a or x=b

From what I remember in Chapter 2, Calculus AB all you need to do is see limit as x->a or b->b from the existent side, and then plug in the value into the function. If it's the same, it's continuous. If it's not, no continuity.

It's like the following:

limit as x->a of f(x)=b
and f(a)=b

makes a function continuous at point (a,f(a))

right? It's been a good few months.
 
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Yes, I was stating the conditions for a function being continuous at the point a. However, I was not saying continuity is necessary for a limit to exist. Sorry if I was unclear.
 

1. What is a one-sided limit?

A one-sided limit is a type of limit in calculus that represents the behavior of a function as it approaches a specific value from either the left or the right side. It is used to determine the behavior of a function at a specific point and can help determine if a function is continuous at that point.

2. How do you prove a one-sided limit?

To prove a one-sided limit, you must show that the function approaches a specific value from either the left or the right side. This can be done by evaluating the limit at that point using the appropriate one-sided limit notation. If the limit exists and is equal to the value being approached, then the one-sided limit is proven.

3. What is the difference between a one-sided limit and a two-sided limit?

A one-sided limit only considers the behavior of a function as it approaches a specific value from either the left or the right side. A two-sided limit, on the other hand, considers the behavior of a function as it approaches a specific value from both the left and the right side. In other words, a two-sided limit takes into account the behavior of a function on both sides of a point, while a one-sided limit only considers one side.

4. Can a one-sided limit exist even if the two-sided limit does not?

Yes, it is possible for a one-sided limit to exist even if the two-sided limit does not. This can occur when the function has a discontinuity at the point in question. In this case, the one-sided limits from either side of the point may exist and be equal, but the two-sided limit does not exist.

5. How can one-sided limits be used in real-world applications?

One-sided limits can be used in real-world applications to model and predict the behavior of various physical processes. For example, they can be used in physics to determine the velocity of an object at a specific point in time or to analyze the stability of a system. In economics, one-sided limits can be used to predict the behavior of a market as it approaches a certain price point. Overall, one-sided limits are a powerful tool for understanding and analyzing real-world phenomena.

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