Why Does Setting Your Thermostat Higher Use More Energy?

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The discussion centers around the question of why setting a thermostat to a higher temperature results in greater energy consumption. Participants explore the relationship between temperature differential, heat loss, and energy expenditure in heating systems, using hypothetical scenarios and mathematical modeling.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the energy expenditure required to maintain different thermostat settings, suggesting that once a house reaches a set temperature, energy use should stabilize regardless of the initial temperature.
  • Another participant explains that heat loss is proportional to the temperature difference between the inside and outside, indicating that a higher indoor temperature leads to increased heat loss and thus more energy consumption to maintain that temperature.
  • A different participant recalls mathematical concepts related to heat loss, suggesting that the rate of temperature change is affected by the temperature differential, and implies that maintaining a higher temperature requires more energy due to faster heat loss.
  • A participant provides a formula for calculating heat loss through a wall, emphasizing the role of temperature difference in energy consumption.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the clarification, indicating a shift in understanding regarding heat loss dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that maintaining a higher indoor temperature results in greater energy consumption due to increased heat loss, but there is some uncertainty regarding the specifics of energy expenditure and the initial heating process.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference mathematical models and concepts related to heat loss, but there are unresolved details regarding the exact formulas and assumptions involved in these calculations.

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This is very difficult to put into words clearly, so bear with me.


You always hear that setting your thermostat higher expends more energy. My question is why?

Let's assume we have two houses of the same size, type, surface area, and insulation (and in all other ways that I'm not thinking of the same).

One house we set the thermostat at 78* and the other house we set at 68*. Also assuming a variance of 2*, such that the thermostat will drop to, say, 66* before it kicks on and warms the house to 70*, drops back down to 66* and so on.

Just for kicks, let's say it's 50* outside(cuz it is right now)

What extra energy(besides maintenance) would be used beyond the initial expenditure, what was required to heat the house up the extra 10*? The way I'm seeing it, (which is probably wrong) it shouldn't take any more energy after that point(besides maintenace, of course). Neither of the two houses should lose heat any faster than the other.
That being the case the only 'waste' would be the additional energy required to bring the 1st house up to 78* in the first place. right?

Am i missing any info here? or is the post clear and I'm not?
Hit me back with anything I'm missing.
 
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Heat loss is generally modeled by assuming that it is porpotional to the temperature difference.

For your 2 equal homes, assuming the same outside temperature, the one which maintains a higher inside temperature will have a higher heat loss because of the higher temperature differential. This higher heat loss will mean that the furnace must run more to maintain the inside temperature.

This of course corresponds to what you see in the real world, if you set your thermostat lower your heat bills also fall.
 
Yeah I remember doing that stuff in maths last year, can't remember the exact formulae unfortunately but will try to find it when i get home. something to do with e to the power of t times the difference in temperatures or something, t being time. guess the easiest life situation you can put it into would be if you poured 2 cups of coffee into two cups exactly the same insulation etc. then you put milk in one so that it isn't as hot as the other. the temperature of the hotter one will drop quicker as the difference in temperature between the coffee and the external temperature is larger. whereas the temperature change of the cooler one will be much slower. correct me if I am wrong - its been a while, but i think it is also an exponential curve. And the moral of the story is, if you want hotter coffee, put the milk in straight away not leave it for 5 mins and then put milk in. in relation to your question about energy, obviously if the hotter one cools down quicker, then its going to take more energy to keep it at the same temperature. DO AN EXPERIMENT!
 
Originally posted by Integral
Heat loss is generally modeled by assuming that it is porpotional to the temperature difference.

For your 2 equal homes, assuming the same outside temperature, the one which maintains a higher inside temperature will have a higher heat loss because of the higher temperature differential. This higher heat loss will mean that the furnace must run more to maintain the inside temperature.

This of course corresponds to what you see in the real world, if you set your thermostat lower your heat bills also fall.

This is it exactly.

Here is the formula for Btu/hr loss through a wall.

q=U x A x TD

where
q = Btu/hr

U = Heat transfer Coefficients (basically the reciprical of the R values) of the wall materials

A = the wall area

TD = the temperatue difference at base conditions.
 
thanks

thanks guys

i was laboring under the idea that all things equal(save for temperature) lose heat equally fast.
 

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