Solve Dynamics Questions: Find x & v in terms of t, & a, v & x for 3m

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The discussion revolves around solving dynamics problems related to particle motion, specifically focusing on expressing position (x) and velocity (v) in terms of time (t), as well as analyzing acceleration defined by a specific relation. The scope includes homework-related questions and mathematical reasoning involving differential equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the meaning of "directly proportional" in the context of acceleration being proportional to the square of time.
  • Another participant suggests that "directly proportional" implies a relationship of the form a = kt², where k is a constant.
  • A participant presents a differential equation derived from the relation a = 12x - 28 and discusses its second-order nature, indicating that the independent variable (t) is missing.
  • There is a suggestion to solve the differential equation to find the maximum value of x and the velocity after traveling a total distance of 3m.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of the acceleration relation and its implications for solving the problem.

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Participants generally agree on the interpretation of "directly proportional" as a = kt², but there remains uncertainty regarding the application of this concept in the context of the homework problems. The discussion includes multiple interpretations and approaches to solving the differential equation, indicating that no consensus has been reached on the best method or solution.

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Participants have not fully resolved the mathematical steps involved in solving the differential equation, and there are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the relationship between acceleration, position, and time.

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My homework problems looks like this:

The acceleration of a particle is directly proportional to the square of the time t. When t=0, the particle is at x=36 ft. Knowing that at t=9 s, x=144 ft. and v=27 ft/s, express x and v in terms of t.

I'm not exactly sure what directly proportional means. Can someone help me out?

Also I have another question I'm stuck on:

The acceleration of a particle is defined by the relation a= 12x-28, where a and x are expressed in m/s2 and meters, respectively. Knowing that v=8 m/s when x=0, determine (a) the maximum value of x, (b) the velocity when the particle has traveled a total distance of 3m.
 
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epiphany said:
I'm not exactly sure what directly proportional means. Can someone help me out?

MathWorld is your friend.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DirectlyProportional.html

Also I have another question I'm stuck on:
The acceleration of a particle is defined by the relation a= 12x-28, where a and x are expressed in m/s2 and meters, respectively. Knowing that v=8 m/s when x=0, determine (a) the maximum value of x, (b) the velocity when the particle has traveled a total distance of 3m.


Note that [itex]a=\frac{d^2x}{dt^2}[/itex] and solve the resulting differential equation for [itex]x[/itex]. You should be able to answer the questions using that solution.
 
Sorry, I'm kinda slow. I'm still not sure what they mean in the question with directly proportional. Does it mean that a = t squared?
 
[tex] a = 12x - 28 \Rightarrow \frac{{d^2 x}}{{dt^2 }} - 12x = - 28[/tex]

You have a second order ODE. The ICs and the equation both suggest that you can consider this equation as one in which the independent variable (t) is missing.

[tex] p\left( x \right) = \frac{{dx}}{{dt}} \Rightarrow \frac{{d^2 x}}{{dt^2 }} = \frac{d}{{dt}}\left( {p\left( x \right)} \right) = \frac{{dp}}{{dx}}\frac{{dx}}{{dt}} = p\frac{{dp}}{{dx}}[/tex]

The DE becomes:

[tex] p\frac{{dp}}{{dx}} - 12x = - 28[/tex] which is separable after a little rearrangement.

You should be able to solve it from there.

(if you run into problems just reply to this thread - I haven't done the whole question so I don't know if the problem is easy or not)

As for your other question I would interpret it as meaning [tex]a = kt^2[/tex].

Edit: Fixed statement above regarding the type of the DE.
 
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epiphany said:
I'm still not sure what they mean in the question with directly proportional.

Benny is right. It just means that [itex]a = kt^2[/itex], where k is a constant. The use of the word 'directly' is rather redundant.
 

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