Scatch space mod prob. is need a formula and answer check

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of a command module orbiting the moon and determining the time it takes to complete one revolution. The problem involves gravitational physics and orbital mechanics, specifically relating to the moon's mass and radius, as well as the altitude of the orbit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss different formulas for calculating orbital speed and period, including variations of Kepler's laws. There is a focus on verifying calculations and questioning the appropriateness of the formulas used.

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The discussion includes some participants confirming calculations while others express confusion about the methods used. There is acknowledgment of differing results for the period of revolution, and suggestions to reconsider the approach to calculating the period based on known speed.

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Participants note discrepancies in the mass of the moon and question the altitude used in calculations. There is a mention of the need for clarity on the formulas applied and their relevance to the problem at hand.

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i think i got it right it wants to know the speed of the command module and the time it takes to do 1 revolution
mass moon = 7.35E22 kg
radius moon = 1.74E6 m
altitude 60 mi

fromula used was Vcm^2 = GMm/Ro

the speed of the module was 1634 m/s

The time formula thans to enigma was

P = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{a^3}{\mu}}}
T = 6511 seconds/60
T = 108 min

is this right?
 
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Your speed looks correct, using your value for mass of the moon.

But I don't follow what you're doing to get the period.

I'm using Kepler's 3rd law:
[tex]T^2 = (\frac{4\pi^2}{GM_m})r^3[/tex]
and here r = (1.74 x 106 + 1609 x 60) so using G=6.67x10-11 and Mm=7.35x1022 I'm getting
T = 7063 s or 118 min.

(Incidentally, my book lists the mass of the moon as 7.36x1022 kg, but what's a mere 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg among friends?)
 
you re right gnome

I wrote down and typed the wrong answer but my calculations were correct. the mind was quicker than the pen

thanks again
 
Sometimes its good to step back & think about what we're doing.

While I was walking my dog, I was wondering why we're using that crazy formula to get the time of 1 revolution. (Heresy -- calling Kepler's 3rd law a crazy formula! )

We already know the speed. Just divide the circumference of the orbit by the speed & get the same answer.]
 

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