Uniform circular motion question

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The problem involves calculating the speed of an electron in uniform circular motion around a proton in a semi-classical model of the hydrogen atom. The context includes the forces acting on the electron and the relevant physical constants.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the electron's speed using the balance of electric force and centripetal force, but encounters a discrepancy with the expected result. Some participants suggest equating electric potential energy with kinetic energy as an alternative approach.

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Participants are exploring different methods to arrive at the correct speed of the electron. There is a recognition of a potential error in the original poster's calculations regarding the placement of constants in the equations. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct formulation of the equations involved.

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There is a mention of specific values for physical constants, and the original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations compared to the professor's answer. The discussion reflects a focus on understanding the relationships between electric forces and motion in the context of atomic physics.

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I'm trying to solve this problem correctly, but my calculations yield a different result than the correct answer according to my professor.

In a semi-classical model of the neutral hydrogen atom, an electron of charge -e and of mass 9.1*10^-31 undergoes uniform circular motion around the much more massive proton with charge +e. The radius of the electron's orbit is 5.3*10^-11 m. The speed of the electron in its orbit is ____ m/s.

Code:
(Force Elec) = (m * a)

=> e^2/(4*pi*E0*radius^2) = mass*velocity^2/radius

=>velocity = (e^2/(4*pi*E0*radius*mass))^(1/2)

where 1/(4*pi*E0) = 8.99*10^9 Nm^2/C^2 and e = 1.602*10^-19

When I solve the equation I get ((1.6*10^-19)^2/(8.99*10^9 * 5.3*10^-11 * 9.1*10^-31))^(1/2) = 2.43*10^-4 m/s, however they say the correct answer is 2.2*10^6 m/s

Maybe I'm doing something wrong? I would hope the prof did everything correctly. :smile:
 
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What you should do is equate the electric potential energy to the kinetic energy of the electron...Thats all that you need to do and lo behold you have the answer.

i.e.


[tex](e^2)/(4\Pi \epsilon_{0}r) = 1/2*(mv^2 )[/tex]

From the above equation you can find the velocity...


Sridhar
 


Originally posted by sridhar_n
What you should do is equate the electric potential energy to the kinetic energy of the electron...Thats all that you need to do and lo behold you have the answer.

i.e.


[tex](e^2)/(4\Pi \epsilon_{0}r) = 1/2*(mv^2 )[/tex]

From the above equation you can find the velocity...


Sridhar

This is the equation I was using. The mistake I made was putting the value for [tex]1/(4\Pi \epsilon_{0}) = 8.99*10^9[/tex] in the denominator of my calculation, instead of the numerator where it should go.
 
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As u said you must substitute [tex]1/4\Pi\epsilon_{0} = 8.99 * 10^9[/tex] in the numerator.

i.e.

[tex]8.99*10^9 * (e^{2})/r = 1/2 * mv^2[/tex]


Sridhar
 

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