Calculating Tension in a Deflected Rope: A Simple Physics Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a deflected rope when a force is applied at its midpoint. The problem involves understanding the relationship between the tension, the length of the rope, the deflection distance, and the applied force.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the applied force and the tension in the rope using trigonometric relationships. They question the accuracy of their calculations and the assumptions made regarding the angle of deflection.

Discussion Status

Several participants have arrived at the same formula for tension, T = FL/4d, and express confidence in their calculations. There is a discussion about the reliability of the textbook used, with some participants suggesting that it contains errors.

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Participants mention discrepancies between their results and those presented in the textbook, indicating a potential issue with the book's accuracy. There is also a reference to verification of the calculations with a professor, suggesting a context of academic scrutiny.

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The book and I aren't getting along tonight. Maybe you can help.
A rope of length L has a tension T. Someone pushes on the rope with a force F at its midpoint and deflects the rope by a distance d. What is T is terms of L,d and F.
This is so simple I won't even explain my work.
2Tsinθ=F
sinθ=d/(L/2)=2d/L (approx)
so
[tex]T=\frac{FL}{4d}[/tex]
Right?
The prob. in the book had numbers, but in the end I was off by a factor of 2.
 
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Ok well this is what I'm getting. instead of using some greek letter for the angle, i'll use H.

forces balancing:
F = 2Tsin(H)
T = F/2sin(H)

length of rope used by the angle is L/2.
since L is the hypotinuse, sin(H) = d/(L/2)
sin(H) = 2d/L

sub that into the first equation:
T = F/2(2d/L)
T = F/(4d/L)
T = FL/4d

I get the same thing.
 
I too got the same value i.e. t=FL/4d
 
BOOK's WRONG AHAHAHAHA!
 
Originally posted by StephenPrivitera
BOOK's WRONG AHAHAHAHA!
What book are you using? Seems like it has quite a few mistakes.
 
I know. I've found at least four in the last two chapters, and I've verified these with my professor, so it's not just stupid Stephen being less smart than the author. The book is PHYSICS by Ohanian 2ed.
 

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