Is a Decades/Centuries-Long Fission Reactor Possible?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of constructing a fission reactor capable of operating for decades or even centuries without refueling. Participants explore theoretical models, practical applications, and alternative energy sources related to long-term power generation.

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  • One participant suggests that a fission reactor could theoretically operate for long periods if the macroscopic absorption cross section for fertile nuclides matches that of fissile species, proposing combinations like U-233 with Th-232.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative power source using small amounts of uranium to generate low-powered RF energy, which could be harnessed through a complex circuit of miniature devices, potentially achieving significant power output.
  • A different approach involves using americium to generate alpha particles, suggesting a method to ionize gases and create static electricity for power generation, while expressing uncertainty about the validity of this idea.
  • One participant references a natural reactor in Oklo, Gabun, which operated for thousands of years with a concentration of U-235, arguing that it demonstrates the possibility of long-term power production in nature.

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Participants present multiple competing views on the feasibility and methods of achieving long-term fission reactors or alternative power sources. There is no consensus on the practicality of these ideas.

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Some claims rely on specific conditions, such as the concentration of fissile materials and the nature of the reactor design. The discussion includes speculative ideas and acknowledges uncertainties in the proposed methods.

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hi guys,

I am just wondering is it possible in reality to construct a fission reactor that will operate for decades or even centuries without refueling? Theoretically, we can do so if the macroscopic absorption cross section for the fertile nuclide equals that for the fissile species. and few possible combinations are as follows:


1) Fissile= U-233 Fertile= Th-232
2) Fissile= U-235 Fertile= U-234
3) Fissile= Pu-239 Fertile= U-238

is this achievable in the reality?
 
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If your goal is to create a power source that will last for several hundred years without needing fuel (one that fuels itself), may I suggest the following:

A very small amount of Uranium (even depeleted uranium), constantly emits radiation. Some of that radiation is in the form of low powered RF energy (the rest you can shield). If you induce the rf energy to charge a capacitor, and have it drive a bridge rectifier, the output would be DC.

Granted, yes, the overall power outputed as DC would be very low, however, if you build several thousand of these miniture 'toys', and then connected them together as if they were batteries, the total outputed DC power would then be the sum of the whole. If enough of these 'toys' are used and connected together in some neat complex circuit, then power levels as high as several mega watts can be achieved. A constant supply of power that would outlive the shelf life of its components. Great for satillites, and has very little waste, unlike reactors.

Hope this helps.
 
Americium generates alpha particles (and is easy to come by)
Alpha particles ionises gasses,
Fill a container with americium and hydrogen,
separate the protons and electrons (magnets?)
use the static electricity generated to power something (americium's half-life is about 100 years)
You can use whatever your alpha-particle producing isotope instead of americium.

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I think if you mean with perfect reactor the long distance of constantly power production (thermal energy) and not the environmental pollution, then you can find it in nature.

In Oklo (Gabun - Africa) there was 2x10^9 years ago a natural reactor with controlled reaction over five-thousend years.
It has had in the beginning a concentration of 3% U-235 which is enough to start a controlled reaction. The moderator was normal H2O. The core had a dimension of several kilometers.

The thermal pollution of this reactor went only 40 m in the ground. The radioactive waste is stored in the reactor since that time.

So it is a perfect reactor if you put enough material in it for working over a long time.

I don't believe that you can copy it to solve our energy problems. :wink: But mother Earth shows us a possibility.

LB
 

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