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Re : The Higgs is necessary (was: Higgs found?)
Originally from, s.p.r. 2000 September 19:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...e=source&hl=en John Baez wrote: > In article <8q2vm5$34c$1@uwm.edu>, > Mark William Hopkins <whopkins@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu> wrote: > >I think the actual mechanism is much simpler: it's nothing more than > >the effects of the g_55 component of a 5-dimensional vacuum metric > >being seen in terms of an effective field theory representation in > >4 dimensions. > > So: have you found a scenario where you get a dilaton that interacts > with fermions and the W and Z in a way that could mimic the Higgs? You could write down the generators for GL(5) in a more revealing form by taking K^a = x L^a_5, P_b = L^5_b, M = -x L^5_5. Then the commutators [L^a_b, L^c_d] = delta^b_c L^a_d - delta^a_d L^b_c ranging over (a,b,c,d = 1,2,3,4,5) yield [L^a_b, K^c] = delta^c_b K^a [L^a_b, P_d] = -delta^a_d P_b [L^a_b, M] = 0 [K^a, K^c] = 0 = [P_b, P_d] [K^a, P_d] = x (L^a_b) + delta^a_b M [K^a, M] = -x K^a [P_b, M] = x P_b This is very similar to the conformal group. In the limit (as x -> 0), you get a representation for an inhomogeneous GL(4). The M generator becomes a Casimir invariant which might then be identified as mass. The above is also similar to the conformal group with M playing the role of the dilation generator and K^a the generator of conformal transformations. One interesting question that also arises is what does the gauge theory for GL(5) or for the inhomogeneous GL(4) look like? The L generators give you the spin connection, and P the tetrad. If you identify the co-tetrad with K, you can actually build up a metric (provided you write in constraints on the gauge fields by hand) because its world index is already lowered. The gauge potentials for M are somewhat of a mystery. > I don't see how to do this. There are lots of different strategies, > but all of them seem to have obstacles. For starters, where's your > SU(2) x U(1) gauge theory coming from? An idea I've been having recently is to move away from SU(2)_I x U(1)_Y to SU(2)_I x U(1)_Y x U(1)_{B-L} and then to consider, instead, its subgroup SU(2)_I x U(1)_{Y-(B-L)/2}, which fits real nicely into a SU(2)_I x SU(2)_R ~~ SL(2,C). So, now comes in that rarely-discussed Wigner class corresponding to 0-momentum and 0-energy, which apparently doesn't even have a name ("vacuon" seems obvious for a name). Its residual symmetry group is just SL(2,C). Maybe there's a way of explaining away an SU(2)_I x SU(2)_R as dynamically generated, analogous to the way that SU(2) x SU(2) symmetry is dynamically generated (with constraints) from the Kepler problem. Alternatively, maybe the Higgs vacuum, itself, can be considered as a true vacuum, rather than a false vacuum, but one that is represented as a "vacuon", rather than as the Poincare-invariant vacuum state that the Wightmann formalism postulates. These two ideas are not mutually exclusive. > (I'm ignoring QCD for now to keep life simple That, then, has to be extended from SU(3) to U(3) = SU(3) x U(1)_{B-L} in order to recover Y. |
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