The Future is Nano

Mickey

An online particle physics tutorial and other sources I've read have associated them this way. Fermions obey Pauli-exclusion and allow the creation of ordinary matter and bosons don't and form condensed matter.

I understand it's not a strict pairing, since some molecules have additive integer spin and exhibit some bosonic behavior. Sorry, I should have realized that that was poorly worded.

Do you mean the "Atomic, Molecular, and Optical Physics" section? I've been looking for physical "nanoscience" articles for a while now, and I'm starting to get the impression that physicists aren't especially fond of the word.

ZapperZ

You need to be more careful with the terminology. "Condensed matter physics" is a FIELD of study in physics. "Condensates" or "BE condensation" is a state of matter due to bosons. These two are NOT the same thing.

http://www.physicspost.com/science-article-209.html

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Mickey

Ohhh, I see. Not "BE condensates," though, because that's redundant? Thank you for that post and the link to Coleman's paper.

So, do you know of any interesting links between BE condensation and nanoscience?

ZapperZ

No, it isn't. You obviously missed the recent discovery of Fermionic condensates.

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Mickey

Really, I didn't know it was that obvious.

Those question marks in the last row of Colemen's broken symmetry table are pretty exciting, btw.

Pythagorean

so what field of study is Condensates in? I always thought Plasma Physics was its own field and so since Condensates are yet a fifth state of matter (plasma being the fourth) it was natural for me to assume that Condensates are its own field by now.

ZapperZ

BE condensates straddle both condensed matter and atomic/molecular/optics field. This is why you see such subject matter being presented at the APS March meetings.

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Pythagorean

If there's no program complimentar to condensates at my University, what do you think the chances of starting one are. There's at least two of us undergrads interested in condensates, and we've haven't started scoping out admin/faculty/staff yet, but that's a different story.

I'm more interested in what kind of national/state support I could get in Alaska. I'm under the impression that condensates are the new hot topic in physics.

Gokul43201

Just a reminder, Pyth, that this thread is about nanoscale physics.

You might want to start a new thread in A&CG exploring specific questions of teaching certain advanced physics courses (like BECs) in undergraduate programs.