The Food Thread

Anyone like white navy beans? My dad loved them and would make them whenever he was home. I never cared for them as they have a very bland taste.

I'm trying to find something *different* from my normal ham hocks and bean soup and found a recipe for navy beans with hocks, or should I do black eyed peas or green split pea soup?

Anyone like white navy beans? My dad loved them and would make them whenever he was home. I never cared for them as they have a very bland taste.

I'm trying to find something *different* from my normal ham hocks and bean soup and found a recipe for navy beans with hocks, or should I do black eyed peas or green split pea soup?

Ham with pease pudding is a classic combination and very tasty.It goes well with a fried egg,onion chutney and crusty bread.

I'm trying to find something *different* from my normal ham hocks and bean soup and found a recipe for navy beans with hocks, or should I do black eyed peas or green split pea soup?

I don't have yellow peas and there is a snowstormj, so Nismar wins this round with navy beans.

I am making the famous Senate Bean Soup.

The Famous Senate Restaurant Bean Soup Recipe

2 pounds dried navy beans

four quarts hot water

1 1/2 pounds smoked ham hocks

1 onion, chopped

2 tablespoons butter

salt and pepper to taste

Wash the navy beans and run hot water through them until they are slightly whitened. Place beans into pot with hot water. Add ham hocks and simmer approximately three hours in a covered pot, stirring occasionally. Remove ham hocks and set aside to cool. Dice meat and return to soup. Lightly brown the onion in butter. Add to soup. Before serving, bring to a boil and season with salt and pepper. Serves 8.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/refe.../bean_soup.htm

I don't have yellow peas and there is a snowstorm, so Nismar wins this round with navy beans.

I am making the famous Senate Bean Soup.

The Famous Senate Restaurant Bean Soup Recipe

2 pounds dried navy beans

four quarts hot water

1 1/2 pounds smoked ham hocks

1 onion, chopped

2 tablespoons butter

salt and pepper to taste

Wash the navy beans and run hot water through them until they are slightly whitened. Place beans into pot with hot water. Add ham hocks and simmer approximately three hours in a covered pot, stirring occasionally. Remove ham hocks and set aside to cool. Dice meat and return to soup. Lightly brown the onion in butter. Add to soup. Before serving, bring to a boil and season with salt and pepper. Serves 8.

http://www.senate.gov/reference/refe.../bean_soup.htm

Dang snow storm. It's keeping me from coming there for some of that.

I've shoveled snow twice today and it's ready for another round. It looks like I had about 6-8 inches.

Cornbread too???

When I was a kid I often heard "pea soup and johnny cake make a Frenchman's belly ache". It was a standard pairing. I preferred biscuits or yeast rolls to the corn bread, but we got the "johnny cake" from time to time. The French-Canadians in my family typically added carrots, onions, and a few other vegetables to the pea soup, along with some form of pork, even if it was only a few slices of salt pork. Depression-era foods served us well.

Johnny Cake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Camille"
To: Phaedrus
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:30 PM
Subject: Johnny Cake

> The term Johnny cake was used in a class I am taking. It was referred to
as a term used to describe corn bread by people who live in the Boston
area. This was news to me as Johnny CAke is a term I heard used by people in
the Carribean to describe a delicious bread. It does not contain any corn
meal at all.
>
> Any insight on this one is appreciated?


Hello Camille,

Well, both of these breads are believed to have been originally called "journey-cakes" because they could be taken with a traveler to be eaten as needed. New England Johnny-cakes are more like a cornmeal pancake, whereas Caribbean johnny-cakes are more like a flour dumpling or fritter. You can't really say that one contains only cornmeal and one contains only flour, though. I found that some New England recipes are mostly cornmeal but with some flour, and I found some Caribbean recipes that were mostly flour but contain a little cornmeal.. The early settlers of New England were taught to make cornmeal johnny-cakes by the native Americans of the area as far back as the 17th century. So, Native Americans were likely making johnny-cakes (although they didn't call them that) before Columbus discovered America. I could not find an exact origin for Caribbean johnny-cakes. Being made with flour, it's not likely that they pre-existed colonial days, at least not in America.

However, it's also possible that the name "journey cake" originally referred to something that the English settlers knew back in England. Perhaps they just transferred the name to the Indian cornmal cakes in New England.

Phaed


West Indies JOHNNY CAKE or FRIED DUMPLINGS
(Journey Cakes)
INGREDIENTS
8 oz Wholemeal flour
11/2 tsp Baking powder
1/2 oz unsalted soy margarine
Cold water
Vegetable oil for frying

METHOD
1. Sift the flour and baking powder together.
2. Rub in the margarine until well blended.
3. Gradually add cold water to the mixture the ingredients bind to form a
stiff dough.
4. Knead the dough on a floured surface until smooth.
5. Divide the mixture, shape into balls and flatten slightly.
6. Heat the vegetable oil in a heavy frying pan and fry the dumplings until
brown on both sides.
Makes approximately 8
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New England Johnny Cakes

(Flat Cornbread Pancake)

Ingredients
2 cup white fine ground corn meal
1/4 tsp salt, or to taste
2 cup boiling water or hot milk
butter or oil


Mix the cornmeal and salt in a bowl. Pour the boiling water over the
cornmeal and stir. Let the mixture stand for about five minutes. If the
mixture is too thick to spread in the pan, add one to two tablespoons of
water.
Heat a lightly greased skillet or griddle. Pour the mixture into the
skillet. You can cook the entire recipe at once or you can make small cakes.

Cook at medium heat for about 5 minutes.

When it comes to ham and beans with cornbread, this goes right over the cornbread:



That does it. I'm soaking some beans tonight.

When it comes to ham and beans with cornbread, this goes right over the cornbread:



That does it. I'm soaking some beans tonight.