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I stepped on a long, dirty and rusty nail...

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arildno
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Jul14-06, 07:21 PM
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Well, nice to have met you. Rest in peace.
Blood poisoning isn't something to ignore.
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Jul14-06, 07:22 PM
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Rust in peace?
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Jul14-06, 07:25 PM
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Damn you americans and medical insurance. Whats wrong with the NHS
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Jul14-06, 07:34 PM
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If you get any of the following symptoms of blood poisoning, you need to get to the hospital FAST. As in EMERGENCY:

Symptoms may develop suddenly and can include the following:

fever,
chills and shivering,
rapid breathing and headache,
nausea, vomiting and diarrhoea,
low blood pressure and possible loss of consciousness,
skin may feel pale, cold, and clammy,
delirium and/or depression

Treatment is then needed within hours.
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Jul14-06, 07:35 PM
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Well... I can't just go, I can't go myself, and my parents don't want to for various reasons. (One of them is they think it'll be over in a few days.) It takes too much time in a hospital. I once twisted my ankle and it took me entire day for x-rays, cast and all others. Hospital is an hour-long drive from here.
This sounds pretty serious, I don't care how long the drive is or how long the wait is, if you were my child, you'd already be there.
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Jul14-06, 07:43 PM
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heartless:
I once experienced this when I was in the boy scouts on camp:
A friend of mine cut his thumb on a rusty nail. This was out in the woods, so we hoped it should go okay.
A few hours later, his thumb had swollen to twice its normal size, and began to be really sick.
Fortunately, we managed to get him to a hospital in time.

This is nothing to be macho about.
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Jul14-06, 07:45 PM
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Obviously health insurance covers emergencies. That's the whole point...
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Jul14-06, 07:46 PM
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Well... I can't just go, I can't go myself, and my parents don't want to for various reasons. (One of them is they think it'll be over in a few days.) . . . . Hospital is an hour-long drive from here.
I have have stepped on several nails and a thumb tack in my earlier years. When I did it at home, I went to the family physician. When I impaled my arm an a piece of sharp metal, I went to the ER.

Since it is a long, dirty, rusty nail, you most likely need a tetanus booster, and maybe antibiotics.

As others indicated, topical anti-bacterials work on the outside, not on the bacteria deep in the wound. You need to be concerned about a staphlococcal or streptococcal infection.

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Doesn't insurance cover hospitalization?

Thanks for replies. I think I'll wait until tomorrow with this. We'll see how it goes.
Hospitalization is normally covered by insurance programs. You however, likely do not to go to hospital, but rather your family physician - and this should have been done already.

My doctor has emergency hourse - and a puncture wound could be considered an emergency.

Medical Treatment
The wound will be thoroughly cleansed. The doctor may use instruments to look for objects in the wound. You may be given a tetanus shot. Antibiotics may be given to people with diabetes, peripheral vascular disease, contaminated wounds, or deep wounds to the foot. Most healthy people without signs of infection do not require antibiotics.
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/punct...d/page7_em.htm

Otherwise -
http://www.lpch.org/HealthLibrary/Pa...tureWound.html
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Jul14-06, 07:48 PM
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I have no idea about medical insurance I'm English
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Jul14-06, 07:49 PM
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Quote Quote by Kurdt
I have no idea about medical insurance I'm English
It's called taxes here in Norway.
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Jul14-06, 07:50 PM
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arildno, thanks for those symptoms, I'll watch for them.

My grandma has just passed me a rivanol solution and ichtiol ointment, maybe this will help. It says that the former works as disinfectant and the last one, as antiphlebitis, cures infected wounds and so on.
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By the way,
have have stepped on several nails and a thumb tack in my earlier years. When I did it at home, I went to the family physician. When I impaled my arm an a piece of sharp metal, I went to the ER.
Astro, what did they do to you?
arildno
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Jul14-06, 07:54 PM
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arildno, thanks for those symptoms, I'll watch for them.

My grandma has just passed me a rivanol solution and ichtiol ointment, maybe this will help. It says that the former works as disinfectant and the last one, as antiphlebitis, cures infected wounds and so on.
This is insufficient.
You need a DEEP cleansing of that wound at the very least (as Astronuc says), and only qualified medical personell can do that.
Surface cleansing as we ordinary mortals can do is not enough.

What WILL happen, even if you do not get blood poisoning, is necrosis around the wound. That dead flesh will need to be scraped out if it is of some quantity.
You might be VERY lucky that it won't be much, but you shouldn't gamble on it.
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Jul14-06, 07:57 PM
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It's called taxes here in Norway.
Well ditto here except they don't cover you for lovely things like loss of earnings and all these lovely insurance terms that are coming up. Its shocking realising how little you know you just take it for granted that you'll get treatment but never think of anything else.
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Jul14-06, 07:58 PM
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arildno, thanks for those symptoms, I'll watch for them.

My grandma has just passed me a rivanol solution and ichtiol ointment, maybe this will help. It says that the former works as disinfectant and the last one, as antiphlebitis, cures infected wounds and so on.
As two people have pointed out, TOPICAL antibiotics are for minor scratches, not deep PUNCTURE wounds like you have. Read the labels! You're at risk of very serious infections, see a real doctor!
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Jul14-06, 08:04 PM
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Yeah, dont be a bonehead, bonehead. Drive to the hospital or I'll come down there and kick you in the arse and drive you myself.
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Jul14-06, 08:05 PM
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You are looking at the possibilities of tetanus, cellulitis, gangrene, who knows how many other infections, and most of them are treated by AMPUTATION
if given the time to become serious. Waiting over the weekend is more than enough time to become fatal rather than just an amputation.

Explain to your parents that you're going to get a lawyer and sue them for negligence if they don't get you to the emergency room on the double-damn-quick.
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Jul14-06, 08:08 PM
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He can die well before the weekend, Bystander, if he develops a serious case of (untreated) blood poisoning (which is not a too rare complication in such cases).


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