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The discussion revolves around the Big Bang theory and alternative perspectives on its implications for our understanding of the universe. Participants explore the nature of galaxies, their movement, and the concept of singularities in relation to the Big Bang, considering both theoretical and observational aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if observers were in different galaxies, they would see the Milky Way moving away, leading to the conclusion that the Milky Way could be considered the location of the Big Bang.
  • Another participant challenges this view, arguing that it relies on an incomplete dataset and assumes the Milky Way's significance over other galaxies, which contradicts the Big Bang theory's premise of galaxies not originating from a central point.
  • There is a proposal that every galaxy could have its own Big Bang, aligning with the idea that the Big Bang occurred at every point in space.
  • A new participant introduces a link to an external resource, indicating interest in older galaxies and their relation to the Big Bang.
  • Another post mentions recent presentations at an astronomy meeting, suggesting relevance to the discussion but does not directly engage with the Big Bang topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the Milky Way's position in relation to the Big Bang, with some supporting the idea of a singularity tied to the Milky Way and others contesting this notion. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the nature of the Big Bang and galaxy movement.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the significance of the Milky Way and the interpretation of observational data regarding galaxy movement. There are unresolved questions about the implications of these perspectives on the Big Bang theory.

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Somthing to ponder during a quite moment, the theorized Big-Bang is the cornerstone of our Universe model, a beginning?..where we evolved from, the Ultimate reference point, the singularity at the beginning of the Universe.

If we use some different perspectives we can base models on what we try to understand, well here is something nobody has considered.

We look out from our Galaxy, we see..millions of other Galaxies..we take it on trust that these Galaxies are real, the data received tells us that all are receeding from our observational point of view, there are analogies that Galaxies are moving away from us as if on a surface of a balloon.

There are millions of other Galaxies, some close by some at far off locations, all experience the same 'effect', so if we were in a different Galaxy, then we should see exactly the same Universe as if from our Milky Way, the Big-Bang model would still persist.

What if we could collectivly be in every 'other' Galaxy except the Milky Way? and fix our stare at the Milky Way...what do we now see?..think about this for a while.

Instead of the Big-Bang being the evasive un-identifiable theoretical unobserved location, we would have to conclude that every Galaxy was co-moving away from this location(milky-Way), and this is the location of the Big-Bang!

Just by taking a co-collective view one can alter the model in that a singlularity is fixed to the Milky Way, the Laws of physics would be the same.

A deeper question can evolve from this simplistic view, what if there is a Big-Bang coupled to every Galaxy anyway?..all of Einsteins Equations state this, our singularity is coupled to the appearance of our Galaxy, Big Bangs are just the appearence of individual Galaxies, the truth is coming, open your mind,think outside the box.
 
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Hi ranyart

Originally posted by ranyart
What if we could collectivly be in every 'other' Galaxy except the Milky Way? and fix our stare at the Milky Way...what do we now see?..think about this for a while.

Instead of the Big-Bang being the evasive un-identifiable theoretical unobserved location, we would have to conclude that every Galaxy was co-moving away from this location(milky-Way), and this is the location of the Big-Bang!

Each observer, except those in the Local Group, would see the Milky Way moving away from their location.

But that would be putting on huge blinders to the rest of the universe (by only looking at the Milky Way). So the conclusion is based on a incomplete/faulty dataset/premise. It assumes a priori that the Milky Way is the most significant galaxy in the universe. Upon further review, one would see that the conclusion could be applied to any galaxy in the universe.

It also contradicts Big Bang Theory in that galaxies were not spewed out from a central point in space.

A deeper question can evolve from this simplistic view, what if there is a Big-Bang coupled to every Galaxy anyway?

Now this is right back on track! :smile: According to the theory, the Big Bang did happen at every point in space. So, it looks like your thought process did point you in the right direction (pun intended).
 
Older Galaxies At Big Bang Start-Up??

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Welcome to Physics Forums Why!

As always, the annual AAS meeting saw lots of interesting presentations and posters - were you there? - and the USA Today article on distant galaxies is quite topical. In fact, there is at least one thread here on this topic already.

The article also gives a couple of 'Guiness Book of Records' type entries - the most intrinsically luminous star, and the 'fastest'. Good subjects for Astronomy thread!
 

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