What Are the Key Physics Concepts Behind Colliding Stars?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics concepts related to colliding stars, particularly in the context of a high school project. Participants explore various aspects of star collisions, including the underlying physics, relevant equations, and observational evidence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help on the physics behind colliding stars, mentioning the need for equations and concepts like Kepler's laws.
  • Another participant suggests that Newton's laws of motion may be sufficient for understanding the basic interactions during a star collision, describing it as two bodies interacting through a common center of mass.
  • A different participant introduces the idea of globular clusters as evidence of star collisions, noting that these clusters form over long periods through numerous close encounters of stars.
  • This participant also distinguishes between "collisions" (close encounters) and "mergers" (actual collisions resulting in a single star), suggesting that the former is more common in globular clusters.
  • There is a suggestion to include photographs of globular clusters in the project to provide real-world evidence of star interactions.
  • One participant expresses appreciation for the information and confirms that any possibility of star interactions is acceptable for the project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific physics concepts to include, as there are differing views on whether to focus on actual mergers or broader interactions. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the depth of physics concepts appropriate for a high school project, and the discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of star interactions.

sen_almighty
colliding stars...need help

hey ppl, I'm doing a project for senior highskool physics, neways, my topic is colliding stars, i have the process and stuff down, but i can't find things on the physics behind it, like equations used to predict the motion mayobe...or sometohin like keplers laws (i may be soundin stupid to ya'll at this point...) newho, can anyone help me with this please? :smile:
 
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Greetings !
Originally posted by sen_almighty
hey ppl, I'm doing a project for senior highskool physics, neways, my topic is colliding stars, i have the process and stuff down, but i can't find things on the physics behind it, like equations used to predict the motion mayobe...or sometohin like keplers laws (i may be soundin stupid to ya'll at this point...) newho, can anyone help me with this please? :smile:
Well, I certainly can't help you (nor do I believe
that this is stuff for high-school students) with
what actually happens during such a collision
but before that I think the "normal" Newton's laws
of motion are all you need. Just two balls in space,
some common center of mass and that's it. Only when
they get real close it is possible to see such
spectacular phenomena as plasma flowing between them
and all, but like I said above that's all probably
very complicated.

Live long and prosper.
 


Originally posted by sen_almighty
hey ppl, I'm doing a project for senior highskool physics, neways, my topic is colliding stars, i have the process and stuff down, but i can't find things on the physics behind it, like equations used to predict the motion mayobe...or sometohin like keplers laws (i may be soundin stupid to ya'll at this point...) newho, can anyone help me with this please? :smile:

For a highskool project a good idea is to include some photographs of real stuff that is real-world evidence of what you are discussing.

In this case you might consider

http://victorian.fortunecity.com/durer/481/gcframes.html

which has a GALLERY of photographs of GLOBULAR CLUSTERS of stars. These are formed over a billion year time period by millions of close-encounter "collisions" of pairs and triples of stars. If you go to that site you see a "cluster dynamics" button and it says there that these clusters are the best laboratory we have for studying star collisions. Because the spherical distribution of stars and other features are evidence of countless collisions over a long period of time.

People do huge computer simulations of star clusters including a million or so stars, to see how these clusters evolve. How they become spherical.

People sometimes talk about star "mergers" (when they actually splat together) as distinct from "collisions" (where they come close and whip around each other and fly off again).

In globular clusters of stars the actual merger-type events are extremely rare compared with the collisions which are brief gravitational interactions where both stars are deflected by each other and exchange some energy.

Find out from your teacher if it is OK to include this idea of collisions where they interact without merging.

Do you have a picture of a comet doing a one-time pass by the sun in what is called a "hyperbolic" orbit? It just swings close by, is deflected, and flies away----not ever returning. Some comets are non-periodic one-time things. When two stars collide it is rather similar to that hyperbolic orbit comet encounter with the sun.

If your teacher insists on actual merging of the stars then forget I said all this. I apologize in that case. Globular clusters are photogenic things however.
 
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Originally posted by marcus

If your teacher insists on actual merging of the stars then forget I said all this. I apologize in that case. Globular clusters are photogenic things however.


it does not have to be erging of stars, any possibility is fine, thanks for the info and the site marcus, greatly appreciated :smile:
 

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