Calculating Internal Resistance of a Voltage Source from Terminal Voltage Drop

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The discussion revolves around calculating the internal resistance of a voltage source based on the observed terminal voltage drop when the current supplied changes. The problem is situated within the context of electrical circuits and involves concepts of electromotive force (emf) and internal resistance.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between terminal voltage, current, and internal resistance using the equation E = V - Ir. There is a discussion about whether the emf can be determined with the given information, and some participants express confusion regarding the necessity of additional parameters like load resistance.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations involved, but there is no consensus on the correct approach due to differing opinions on the necessity of additional information for solving the problem.

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Participants note constraints such as the prohibition of calculus in their coursework, which influences their approach to the problem. There is also mention of the need for load resistance to accurately determine internal resistance, highlighting the complexity of the situation.

nautica
Okay here is the question:

a) what is the internal resistance of a voltage source if its terminal voltage drops by 2 V when the current supplied increases by 5 A.

b) Can the emf of the voltage source be found with the information supplied?

I know that E = V - Ir, and I am pretty sure that a simple algebraic equation can be put together. So what formulat am I missing??

Thanks
Nautica
 
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You know that E = V - Ir so ΔE= ΔV- ΔI r. You are told that ΔE= 2volts when &Dekta;I= -5 amps. Of course, ΔV= 0 since the voltage source is fixed.
Thatis: 2= -5r. Can you solve for r now? :smile:.

The answer to b is NO. In effect V is the "constant of integration" when you "integrate" dE= -rdI. There is no way to find that from the information given.
 
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I am in College Physics, we can not use calculus for an answer. So is there a reason algebraically.

thanks
nautica
 
If u know the potential diff b/w two terminals, then u can find the emf.

With this information u cannot find
 
So ther is no way to find emf without Potential difference?

thanks
nautica
 
Okay For a) here is what I got

V=E-Ir

or dV=dE - dIr

2V = -5r

so r = -.4Ohms

BUT, my instructor said this was wrong b/c there I did not no the Rload and there are too many unknowns for this to be solved.

I can see how part B could not be solved but this looked so simple for part a)

He said this was the other equation I should have considered, but I do not see why it was needed.

I = E / (Rload + r)

Thanks
nautica
 

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