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Wave equation for propogation of phase change (ice creation) insupercooled water ?
Hi,
The question is as the title : When water is supercooled it can suddenly transition between the water and ice phases. Presumeably this phase change propogates as a wave through the supercooled liquid ? If so then can anyone tell me which wave equation this satisfies ? Do wave equations for propagation of phase changes in general share common characteristics ? Does anyone know of a good, not too technical, overview of specifically phase change propagation ? Many thanks, -- Boo |
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Boo wrote:
> > Hi, > > The question is as the title : > > When water is supercooled it can suddenly transition between the water and ice > phases. Presumeably this phase change propogates as a wave through the > supercooled liquid ? If so then can anyone tell me which wave equation this > satisfies ? Do wave equations for propagation of phase changes in general share > common characteristics ? Does anyone know of a good, not too technical, > overview of specifically phase change propagation ? It ain't that easy. Water has a specific heat around 1 cal/gram, ice around 0.5 cal/gram, and the latent enthalpy of fusion is 80 cal/gram. Different thermal conductivities, too. Ya gotta dump the heat and there's gonna be convection. Water is most dense at 4 C and less dense at lower and higher temps. Nightmare as a closed form solution. Good luck on finding a steady state solution except maybe at zero gee. Looks like a job for finite element analysis in a computer cluster. BTW, ice grows as needles and blades to make your happiness complete. -- Uncle Al http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals) http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz3.pdf |
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Boo wrote: > Hi, > > The question is as the title : > > When water is supercooled it can suddenly transition between the water > and ice phases. Presumeably this phase change propogates as a wave > through the supercooled liquid ? If so then can anyone tell me which > wave equation this satisfies ? Do wave equations for propagation of > phase changes in general share common characteristics ? Does anyone > know of a good, not too technical, overview of specifically phase > change propagation ? > > Many thanks, > > -- > Boo See the Stefan problem: http://eom.springer.de/s/s087600.htm |
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