Chemical equation simplification

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of a chemical equation, specifically the balancing of reactants and products in the context of a combustion reaction involving carbon monoxide (CO) and oxygen (O2). Participants explore the implications of simplifying balanced equations and the potential errors that can arise during this process.

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  • One participant presents an initial balanced equation, 4CO + 2O2 -> 4CO2, and questions the validity of a simplified version, 2CO + O2 -> 2CO2, noting a discrepancy in the number of O2 molecules.
  • Another participant suggests that the original equation should have been 4CO + 2O2 -> 4CO2 to maintain balance and points out a potential error in mixing O and O2 in the simplification process.
  • A later reply clarifies that the intended unbalanced reaction was CO + O2 -> CO2 and acknowledges an initial mistake in the equation presented.
  • Further clarification is provided that the simplification of the original equation is valid, but emphasizes that dividing O2 by 2 leads to a fractional representation, which complicates the equation unnecessarily.

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Participants express differing views on the simplification process and the handling of oxygen in the equations. There is no consensus on the best approach to simplification, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of introducing fractions in the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of accurately counting atoms in the equations and the potential confusion that arises from simplifying balanced equations. The discussion reveals a reliance on proper definitions and the need for careful consideration of the chemical species involved.

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4CO + 2CO2 -> 4CO2 this is Balanced

when I simplify, the simplification doesn't work

2CO + O2 -> 2CO2

3 moles of O2 does not equal 4 Moles of O2

where's my error?
 
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Originally posted by Integral0
4CO + 2CO2 -> 4CO2 this is Balanced

when I simplify, the simplification doesn't work

2CO + O2 -> 2CO2

3 moles of O2 does not equal 4 Moles of O2

where's my error?

I assume your initial reaction was supposed to be:
4CO + 2O2 -> 4CO2 otherwise it didn't start out balanced

In the simplified form, the error is you're mixing up O and O2. Just count O and you get this:
Left side
2 CO = 2C + 2O
1 O2 = 0C + 2O
Total= 2C + 4O

Right side
2 CO2 = 2C + 4O which is the same as the total for the left side.
 
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actually this is the reaction I meant

CO + O2 -> CO2 (Unbalanced)

sorry it was a mistake originally
 
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Originally posted by Integral0
actually this is the reaction I meant

CO + O2 -> CO2 (Unbalanced)

sorry it was a mistake originally

Okay, then look carefully at the original equation.

4CO + 2O2 -> 4CO2

To simplify the equation, you divide by two. This gives you:
2CO + O2 -> 2CO2
This is what you had in your first post as the solution, and it was a correctly balanced equation. You can't simplify any further since you're already down to just one O2 on the left side of the equation. The unbalanced equation you're having trouble with doesn't take into account dividing 1 O2 by 2, which would give you 1/2 O2. This wouldn't be wrong, but it's not any simpler when you start adding fractions, so you stop simplifying before you get to fractions.
 

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