Electric Field w/ Continuous Charge Dist.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field due to a continuous line of charge with uniform linear charge density along the x-axis, extending from a point to infinity. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the setup and integration process required to solve the problem.

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the electric field contributions from the continuous charge distribution, questioning the limits of integration and the role of the cosine function in their calculations. There is also exploration of the implications of the charge's sign on the direction of the electric field.

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Participants have provided guidance on the integration process and clarified the reasoning behind the limits of integration. There is ongoing exploration of the mathematical implications of certain terms in the equations, particularly regarding the behavior of terms as they approach infinity.

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Okay I'm really confused with continuous charge distributions, so I'm totally stuck...


A continuous line of charge lies along the x axis, extending from x=+x_0 to positive infinity. The line carries a uniform linear charge density lambda_0. What are the magnitude and direction of the electric field at the origin?


I have no idea where to approach or how to setup this problem up really.. What I tried to do is this..

Since, lambda = Q / L = dq / dx

E = int dE

= int k_e dq / r^2

= k_e int lambda dx / x^2

And then I'm completely stuck... Do I need to find lambda or just integrate? or...?


Any help is greatly appreciated. :smile:
Thanks.
 
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You're on the right track. Lambda is a constant, so put it out in front along with ke & integrate, (but first, determine your limits of integration).
 
Thanks for the quick response. I'm also confused on what my limits of integration are.. Do I go from {x_o to infinity}, or {0 to x_o}, or ...?

Okay so to continue on,

(k_e)(lambda) int{x_otoinf} x^-2 dx

(k_e)(lambda) int{x_otoinf} - 1 / x

(k_e)(lambda) [(-1 / x_o) - (1 / inf)] cos 0

[(-k_e lambda / x_o) + (-k_e lambda / inf)] i


Thanks for the help.:smile:
 
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Good.

Now, do you understand why it is {x_otoinf} or was that a lucky guess?

Where did cos 0 come from?

and what are you planning to do with (-k_e lambda / inf)?
 
Okay well the limits were partially a guess.. But I figured from x_o to infinity because it is a continuous line of charge along the x-axis but I wasn't sure because like you said I don't know what to do with (-k_e)(lambda)/inf.


I figured cos 0 because I thought it was a vector that lies along the x-axis but has no angle and no y component(j). So, cos 0 = 1 and the answer would have +i given in the notation. Is this wrong?
 
You're right about the limits. When you compute this integral, you are *summing* the electrical fields arising from the continuous line of tiny charges dq which runs from x_0 to infinity -- the location of the charges is what determines the limits of integration.

I would say the direction of the field is -i. Since it wasn't specified that the charge is negative, I would assume it is positive.
The field direction is away from a positive charge, and the origin is located to the left of the line of charge. So the field at the origin is directed towards the left.

As to the cosine, yes, cos 0 = 1 and yes, this field is along the x-axis and yes, there is no y component. It's just odd that the cosine just pops up out of nowhere. You're not doing a dot product here, and you didn't have any trig functions in the expression you are integrating. So it didn't arise out of anything in your computation and it doesn't really serve any purpose. You can explain your reasoning behind the direction of the field just as well without it, and in fact you'd have to give the same explanation to justify the cosine itself. So I'd say it doesn't belong there.

And as to (-k_e)(lambda)/inf
what is the value of x/ ∞ (where x = any finite number)?
 
could be zero. I'm confused on how that effects lambda though.
 
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My point is just that
[tex]-\frac{k_e \lambda}{\infty} = 0[/tex]
so that entire term drops out, and the final result is just
[tex]E = - \frac{k_e \lambda}{x_0} \bold{i}[/tex]
 
Ah okay.. I understand now.

Thanks for the help! :smile:
 

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